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#61 Inimicus

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 08:37 AM

I love the way you guys are slamming Dell.

I bought 60 of them last summer and 55 of them have been running around the clock since they went online and not so much as a speaker has failed.

In my time in IT Ive signed the purchase order on or recommended thousands of Dell servers, desktops, and laptops. My clients and I have had so few problems that at this point I wouldn't dream of ordering anything else.

Is it the place to buy a high end gaming rig? no. But to act like they are somehow below E-Machines is just disingenuous.



Dirty, if you want a gaming rig then you have to build it. You cant get a prebuilt high end box as cheap and you need to know exactly whats going on under the hood.

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 09:01 AM

Dirty, if you want a gaming rig then you have to build it. You cant get a prebuilt high end box as cheap and you need to know exactly whats going on under the hood.


Yea, that's what I'm going to be doing. I got in touch with an old friend who knows how to do it. He's going to help me as much as possible this summer. But I will be coming back here for 2nd opinions on stuff.

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 11:35 AM

Just make sure you buy quality stuff. Don't cheap out on the manufacturer just because it's the cheapest one of the chipset you want. You'll regret it a year later.

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 11:37 AM

So how long does it take to look around the internet and find a good deal? Then look at that deal and try to figure out if what's in the PC is pretty good, especially if you don't really know much about computers. Are you able to go pick that pc up from the internet right away and boot it up or do you have to order it and then it gets shipped out in 7-14 days? Not sure why you keep talking about all these man hours to build a pc when it would take more time to do research on a "good deal" pc.

I'll post pictures of the $800 I saved later.



I found that i7 in 10 minutes for under 800 bucks. The mobo and proc alone would cost you 500$+ for the combo, and that's assuming they're the bottom of the barrel. But its Asus so its safe to assume its just an average mobo. Nothing special, nothing bad. So that leaves 300 for case, power supply, ram, dvd drive, hard drive and OS. And that's 9gigs in that machine, easily 200+ in ram. Like I said, it would be worth it to buy it just to part it out.

Too bad they already sold out cuz it wuz such an awesome deal.

Now, if you pirate your OS, you can undercut your building costs and save money.

So yeah, if I wanted it, I'd have it in 3-5 days.

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 12:09 PM

I found that i7 in 10 minutes for under 800 bucks. The mobo and proc alone would cost you 500$+ for the combo, and that's assuming they're the bottom of the barrel. But its Asus so its safe to assume its just an average mobo. Nothing special, nothing bad. So that leaves 300 for case, power supply, ram, dvd drive, hard drive and OS. And that's 9gigs in that machine, easily 200+ in ram. Like I said, it would be worth it to buy it just to part it out.

Too bad they already sold out cuz it wuz such an awesome deal.

Now, if you pirate your OS, you can undercut your building costs and save money.

So yeah, if I wanted it, I'd have it in 3-5 days.


what i7 and what mb? the link seems to be dead now.

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 12:12 PM

Yep. They shut it down after they sold out. It had 8mb of cache and held up to 24 gb of ram (personally I'd prefer 32, that's what I'd go for if I were building my own) so it cannot be a pooty board.

This is the lowest grade of asus mobo you can get that supports the i7 and has 8mb cache:

http://www.onsale.co...e=BWBGoogleBase

And I wouldn't trust them enough to order it. Rather pay another 30 bucks and go with newegg.

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 02:00 PM

Yea, that's what I'm going to be doing. I got in touch with an old friend who knows how to do it. He's going to help me as much as possible this summer. But I will be coming back here for 2nd opinions on stuff.


Some small rules when building your PC.

Take your time.

Order everything at once unless there is just an insane deal you can't pass up. You want to be able to get everything together so you can make sure it all works.

Newegg.com is the only place I use but Tigerdirect.com is a pretty decent site as well.

Do not skimp on the Case and PSU. A quality case will last you a very long time. Getting a cheap PSU is a good way to fry your system.

Don't overclock unless you're comfortable with voiding your warranty. Overclocking is a great way to get more bang for your buck, but have somebody help you your first time.

If this is going to be a pure gaming computer then you wont need a big HD, go for solid state drive if you can afford it.

Opt for a good headset over good speakers if you like to do a lot of online gaming.

Definitely hit up the boards on Tomshardware.com for advice.

Get a monitor with HDMI with a 1900 x 1080 resolution so you can use it for Blu-ray and xbox/PS3.

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 02:14 PM

Yep, one of the main issues with building piece by piece is if you get the mobo first, and the rest a week or 6 later, then the warranty may be expired by the time you're able to get it all together.

I wouldn't overclock unless you get a sweet heatsink/air cooler. For gaming, its best to have two hard drives to improve your load speed. Plus you can put a paging file on each hard drive to improve OS and gaming performance.

Tomshardware, I'll back that up too. Better than asking advice on a football forum.

But you could have a premade today that would suit all your gaming needs for the next 3 years for roughly the same price.

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 02:20 PM

I love the way you guys are slamming Dell.

I bought 60 of them last summer and 55 of them have been running around the clock since they went online and not so much as a speaker has failed.

In my time in IT Ive signed the purchase order on or recommended thousands of Dell servers, desktops, and laptops. My clients and I have had so few problems that at this point I wouldn't dream of ordering anything else.

Is it the place to buy a high end gaming rig? no. But to act like they are somehow below E-Machines is just disingenuous.



Dirty, if you want a gaming rig then you have to build it. You cant get a prebuilt high end box as cheap and you need to know exactly whats going on under the hood.

Using one of our r910's right now to do some data runs and it's about 30% faster than any other rig on the market. Love it, hope to keep it on the lease for a bit longer.

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 02:33 PM

Until you try to upgrade one or don't mind paying for their advertising. :)

For run of the mill computer stuff, Compaq has to be the worst. Dell and HP just aren't for people looking to the future, 3-4 years down the road. If I had to get someone a pc for general use, the manufacturer really wouldn't be an issue at all. Except Compaq. The other two are ehhhhhhhh but whatever, you're just gonna be shopping on amazon or running microsoft office then who cares.

I'm all about finding the pragmatic solution for the problem, and not overkilling anything unless I just got money to blow on overkill.

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 06:37 PM

We need to list some more advantages than price because there are more benefits than price.

Learning a new skill is always valuable, you'll be able to fix things that may arise without having to pay for repairs yourself.

You can upgrade and expand your PC much better than a pre-built.

All the parts of the computer will be better quality and you will know exactly what you have in it. A pre-built is made profitable by cutting corners on the PSU, Mobo, and Case.

The Warranties on your parts are much better than the warranty you will get from Pre-built. I've had parts with double lifetime warranties before. Try getting that with a pre-built. The most I've ever seen for free on a pre-built was a year.

The online community is excellent for computer geeks. The fact that you've gotten so many responses on Carolina Panthers forum proves it.

You can customize the computer exactly how you want it.

It's cheaper, unless you buy a refurb like PSC which is a bad idea. Refurbed electionics are a huge gamble.

You can canibilize other PC's you find and set up your house with a bunch of comps for different things like movie/music servers.

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 06:51 PM

My pc isn't refurb.

Someone else said they buy refurb. I said I'd buy one if I found a steal.

The only thing I'm debating is price. I'm tired of the myth that you save money, and I really don't want to see someone get in over their head.

Its not as simple as some of you would like to make it out, and I wouldn't let any of you within 10 feet of my pc.

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 07:35 PM

I meant the PC you recommended when discussing price, no your personal PC.

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 11:04 PM

No, I didn't recommend that pc. I was using it to prove that you can actually get a premade for less than you can buy the individual parts. Someone else recommended getting a refurb.

There are reasons to build your own pc. Saving money isn't one of them.

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 11:12 PM

Do it if you are a super nerd and enjoy putting poo together. Or you want to create this beastly thing where you are particular about every part. Those are reasons to build your own computer.

I wouldn't build a PC unless I wanted to make a war machine that could run Crysis 2 at 120 FPS. For most gaming needs, a prebuilt is completely fine and going to be the same price.

And like I mentioned before, the OS comes installed and it's a legit copy. Which, for some reason I care about now.