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#1 SorthNarolina

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 10:02 PM

I can't stop thinking about these scenarios so I wanted to throw them all into one just to see what it will look like. As crazy as this is I think it's also pretty realistic in the terms of the trades and trade partners. It happening all at the same time is what is pretty insane. It also doesn't consider real world factors like team morale, and the possibilities of draft picks not working out. Be sure and read the whole post.

There are 3 trades in this draft.

We trade our 2011 1st, this year's 2nd, and our 6th to New England at #22. New England has 4 2nd round picks this year and 3 1st rounders next year. Not such a crazy thing to propose.

We trade Deangelo Williams to the Chargers for their first 2nd rounder and their 6th. I don't approve with this but I'll be able to accept it once everything is said and done. I don't think they would do this though.

As soon as the 1st day is over, we put marshall on the market. Nobody bites in the 2nd but Richard Marshall eventually gets traded to Clevland for their 1st 3rd round pick.

We trade Cleveland's 3rd and our 4th for Osi Umenyiora.

Now that the shenanigans are over, on to the draft!

1st - Kyle Wilson CB/RS - a very good cover corner with good ball skills. Can get turnovers. Also is a good returner which would give us options although I wouldn't expect him to fill that role.

2nd - Golden Tate - WR/RS - a Steve Smith clone. Don't know if he falls this far but there is a chance.

3rd - D'Anthony Smith DT - an upside guy. Could be good but will need time and coaching to develop. This is a good pick since he can learn for a while as the 5th DT working into the line-up later in the year. That is if we don't stash him on IR.

6th - David Reed WR - talented WR, should be able to easily make the team.

6thc - Travis Goethel - OLB depth.

6thc - Joe Hawley - C - versatile center for Magazu to coach up.

7th - Denis Landolt - OT - depth.

7thc - Robert Malone P - Baker is above average but I wouldn't mind seeing some competition.

So how did we turn out?

DE - we replace Peppers with an experienced vet who can be a 10+ sack guy who can help draw away double teams. We can't replace Peppers with another Everette Brown, we need immediate help.

DT - despite what people say, I don't think we're that bad off at defensive tackle. We're going to have a heavy rotation so a young guy with tons of upside fits well into the position we are in.

WR - Steve Smith wants a talented WR to draw attention so he can play the slot. Sorry Smitty, YOU draw away attention while Tate plays the slot. I'm sorry you're one of the best WR's in the league but it works a lot better that way. We also get a late round guy to take that 5th spot who is better than Moore or Martin.

CB - We replace Richard Marshall, a guy who we are only keeping for one more year with Kyle Wilson, a guy we'll be keeping for 5 years who will be better in less than 1 year. We can also sign him to a cap friendly contract because of the uncapped year. Genius;).

Ryan Kalil, Deangelo Williams, Dwayne Jarrett, Dante Rosario, Charles Johnson, Matt Moore, Richard Marshall, Thomas Davis.

These are the guys who are coming into FA in 2011. We're not going to be able to keep all of them.

Richard Marshall wants a big contract, get rid of him now for compensation. We draft his replacement immediately who will most likely be better.

Deangelo Williams doesn't want a big contract, but he certainly deserves one. Teams will offer him big contracts. Even the contract he will accept here is going to be pretty big. As painful as it is, in business terms it's a good move to trade him now. JR has been making business moves all season, why stop now?

Stewart can carry the load, and Sutton is no slouch. We also have Goodson would could fill in some. It's beautiful to have Double Trouble, but one reason they're great is because of our O-line. We can still be great without 2 all-pro RBs. A runningback behind this O-line is a lot easier to replace than a center, WLB, or QB. And it's not like we can't draft another young RB later.

We can probably just squeeze Kalil, Moore, Davis, Rosario, and Johnson in with the money we save with Williams and Marshall.

So if this were to happen, we would have every pressing need addressed, be able to sign all of our core in 2011, and only be out next year's 2011 1st.

It's crazy but I could live with this.

#2 XClown1986

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 10:27 PM

Hate it. Just... I mean wow.

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 11:17 PM

:eek:

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 11:59 PM

This made me laugh a lot.

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 01:37 AM

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#6 PantherBrew

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 11:28 AM

I mock your mock.

#7 TerriblePizza

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 11:30 AM

I mock your mock.


Ditto.

#8 Lout

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 11:34 AM

Glad you aren't our GM. ;) And you didn't even draft a RB to replace DWill.

#9 theyhateme45

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 12:20 PM

I mock your mock.


You mock
I mock
We Mock together

Seriously I really really :smilielol5: at this

Congrats this is offically the worst Panthers Mock I have ever seen in my life

We lose Williams, Marshall, and our 1st next year and what do we have to show for it

A late 1st round pick and Osi!! Thats it... that's all we gained!! Then we don't have a 4th round pick now.

Stay off the drugs dude... Really... Atleast I hope you were :sifone: when you posted this.

#10 SorthNarolina

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 12:40 PM

I've made much more sensible mocks before but those get boring. I've already made about 5 so I wanted to do something a little crazy. People who have been reading this board know I enjoy doing lots of different scenarios. I originally was going to do this one and a more serious one, but I didn't feel like clogging up the board with another mock so close to draft day. This one was a lot more fun to put together.

This isn't something I necessarily think we should do or what I think will happen, which is why I mention it being crazy, insane, etc. However, it's about the only way I see to address all of our needs. If it did happen, I would freak a little but I think it would end pretty well. It would also help clear room to sign all of our big names in 2011. I'd rather keep Davis, Kalil, and Moore than Williams & Marshall.

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 11:15 PM

Crazy. D-Will and J-Stew was the only thing keeping the offense a float this year. This is a two back league now. And we happen to have 2 starting running backs on our team. D-will is a must stay. We are getting back our two probowl tackles this year so the pressure on moore wont be as bad. Our D-line is going to hurt the most i think.

A immediate impact player this year with 48th pick would be what we want. We can get qbs later in this draft cough cough ( Dan Levour, Skeleton).

Steve smith needs help. But being from NJ i dont wanna give up on dwayne just yet.

I am thinking D-line this year. Maybe some help at the linebacking core.

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 06:35 AM

I've made much more sensible mocks before but those get boring. I've already made about 5 so I wanted to do something a little crazy. People who have been reading this board know I enjoy doing lots of different scenarios. I originally was going to do this one and a more serious one, but I didn't feel like clogging up the board with another mock so close to draft day. This one was a lot more fun to put together.

This isn't something I necessarily think we should do or what I think will happen, which is why I mention it being crazy, insane, etc. However, it's about the only way I see to address all of our needs. If it did happen, I would freak a little but I think it would end pretty well. It would also help clear room to sign all of our big names in 2011. I'd rather keep Davis, Kalil, and Moore than Williams & Marshall.


Why on earth would we take only a 2nd and 6th for Williams? And how exactly did you expect both Tate and Wilson to fall that far? Wilson most likely will go in the first 15 picks and Tate most likely will be in the 1st.

Your mock would probably ruin our team. 2 great young starters for peanuts and a next to impossible mock draft otherwise. I'm fine with trading them both but trading them just for the sake of trading them is foolish consider neither is making a fuss about wanting out of here. If we could get a top 20 pick for dwill and a 2nd for Marshall I'm fine with it. Anything less and they have more value to us.

Marshall for a 3rd thats ridiculous. Why are people so obsessed with draft picks? Even as a NB hes worth more then that to us.

Edited by jramsey4, 22 April 2010 - 06:48 AM.


#13 SorthNarolina

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 11:53 AM

Why on earth would we take only a 2nd and 6th for Williams? And how exactly did you expect both Tate and Wilson to fall that far? Wilson most likely will go in the first 15 picks and Tate most likely will be in the 1st.

Your mock would probably ruin our team. 2 great young starters for peanuts and a next to impossible mock draft otherwise. I'm fine with trading them both but trading them just for the sake of trading them is foolish consider neither is making a fuss about wanting out of here. If we could get a top 20 pick for dwill and a 2nd for Marshall I'm fine with it. Anything less and they have more value to us.

Marshall for a 3rd thats ridiculous. Why are people so obsessed with draft picks? Even as a NB hes worth more then that to us.


If Wilson or Tate don't make it that far then just insert whatever CB and WR does. Or flip flop it and take Tate first then a guy like Chris Cook or something.

I would take a 2nd and 6th for Williams because that's as good an offer that we will get. RB's are easy to replace so I don't think the chargers would give up a 1st when they have other needs. I think Stewart would be able to carry the load just fine, and sutton/goodson could relieve him well.

Also, we have a ton of FA's to sign next year. With our O-line just about any back we put behind it is going to be effective. It's a lot harder to find guys like Davis, Kalil, or Moore than it would be Williams. We're not going to be able to keep all of them so I'd rather put money towards the guys who are harder to replace.

I also don't think Marshall will be around next year either. So drafting his replacement now would make sense. Also, I don't think we could get a 2nd for him. Real world examples you will rarely get what you are asking for. I would rather trade him for compensation now.

We use the pick from Marshall to get Osi Umenyiora. We get an impact guy for a 3rd and 4th. Osi would help us out a lot more than Marshall considering we just lost Peppers.

So in short the reason I traded Marshall and Williams was because were not going to be able to keep all 5 stars in 2011, and these are the guys that are the easiest to let go.

Again, this isn't what I honestly think we should do or will do. I just got bored with the same ol' mock drafts over and over again. So I wanted to do something a little more fun and interesting. If this happened I'd be able to understand why they did it, maybe not agree with it. But I would at least get the idea.

#14 SmootsDaddy89

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 12:17 PM

With the CURRENT draft order, I don't see Tate going in the first. Someone could trade up for him though.


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