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#31 The Saltman

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 08:38 PM

He was also cobra commander in the G.I. Joe movie.

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 08:56 PM

Inception = Best Movie Ever. It was so brilliant, everything about it. I wanna watch it a second time already. So incredible. Brilliant directing, brilliant acting, brilliant concept.

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 08:58 PM

He was also cobra commander in the G.I. Joe movie.


and the goofy kid in "10 things I hate about you."

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 08:59 PM

I knew the sidekick looked familiar. He was the little kid in 3rd Rock From the Sun as well as Angels in the Outfield


He was also in Miracle at St Anna, another one of my all-time favorite movies.

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 08:59 PM

And I was told he was in 500 Days of Summer, although I've never seen it. None the less, he seems to be a great actor.

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 12:55 AM

And to answer the question, if you notice at the end the grandpa calls the kids inside. Remember the reoccurring memory he has when his children are getting called inside before he can see their faces before he leaves the house?? WELL, when the grandpa calls the kids inside at the end is the same memory that reoccurred during the movie. Based off of that, I'd say that he's probably living in a world of memories at the end of the movie.

Regardless, all he wanted to do is see his children again and settle the "deal" with his wife (growing old together). He actually accomplished both, so whether the ending is a dream or reality, I think it really doesn't matter to him. He's content either way.

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 12:26 PM

This movie definitely lived up to the hype. Nolan did not disappoint. Imo, one of the best movies in the last decade at the least.

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 12:30 PM

So pumped to see it again tonight.

Right now: Zodiac is still my top movie, but Inception is about to leap-frog it.

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 01:04 PM

My favorite movies…

1. Inception
2. Letters from Iwo Jima
3. Miracle at St Anna
4. Slumdog Millionaire
5. The Shawshank Redemption (Tied)
5. Shutter Island (Tied)

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 01:05 PM

And I'm also gonna see Inception again. I think it's one of those movies that you'd understand a lot better the 2nd time around.

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 04:05 PM

Driving to the coast today I thought about this new angle. Michael Caine. Perhaps he helped to do a bit of inception on his own by suggesting to Leo at the school to go back home and the reason why. He then brought in the girl to construct things and she was on Leo like a cheap suit about his wife. Much like getting Cillian to sabotage his own sub conscience, maybe thats what happened to Leo.
Hmm

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 04:38 PM

My theory....everyone who watches this movie gets put under by some kind of gas provided to each theater. The movie is all our collective dream.

Don't believe me? Try to get in to the next showing with a gas mask on.

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 06:20 PM

I think Cobb is in Limbo throughout the entire movie. He never leaves the world he enters with his wife, he just delves deeper into his sub conscious.

Basically he planted the seed in his own mind that the world that he perceives is real (with the team on the plane) is actually real. Whereas in actuality he's still dreaming. So he did the whole inception thing on himself.


I'd explain the spinning top as also being part of the dream. If you recall it was his wife's totem that he found in the doll house when they were both in Limbo, therefore, it was affected by the physics of his mind too. i.e. it toppled when he felt it should (when he 'knew' was back in 'reality'), and spun endlessly when he thought he was in a dream (i.e. when he 'knew' he was in a dream world stealing secrets). At the end it wobbles (and apparently is heard falling in the credits) because he truly buys into the fact that he's home with his children.

There's also clues in the conversations he has - like with the Architect girl (saying you can never remember how you get places in dreams, you just appear there. In the film he appears everywhere he needs to be - Paris, Mombassa etc with no indication of how he got there, almost as if he's dreaming), and how the Japanese guy just HAPPENS to turn up to save him when he's being chased by mysterious agents in Mombassa (his sub conscious turning on itself realising there's something strange about the dream perhaps?).

I believe it's called the 'unreliable narrator' in literary terms. Nolan used a similar method in Memento.


I'm probably wrong mind, but either way it's a head fug of a movie.

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 06:37 PM

unreliable narrator is the perfect or easy out.
The totem is a key angle. Arthur told the arch girl not to let anyone else touch it because only you will know the weight and feel properly.
Did he get that from Cobb AFTER Cobb had gotten his wife's totem?
The more I think about it, Saito planted the conscience Inception. Michael Caine reinforced it. The arch girl delves into the contex of Cobb. She is aware of his instability of Mal finding her way into his dreams. Her projection was the reverse kick to put Cillian down so they could drill down yet again.
That moment forced them to improvise.
The fact the top was wobbling is enough evidence to me he was truly home. The payoff that he is in the real world is much better than he was simply dreaming.

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 06:47 PM

How about this? Remember how Eames(sp) was able to convice Robert(Cillian) that he was Browning to get info from him?
What if Ellen Page was able to do that and pretending to be Mal to Cobb? OMG...I can't believe the levels of this film...


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