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#1 CAPantherFan

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 12:28 AM

Clearly our two weak links. Yes Jake is an emotional leader and his job is to not make mistakes and hand the ball off w/o problems.

That said Jake is on notice IMO. Stop the BS and get the job done efficiently like you've done before.

Lucas? He should be fired IMMEDIATELY!! Horrible, just embarrassing.

I don't think this is a superbowl team, although anything is possible.

Next year. start thinking Jake replacement, pay whatever Pep wants and get Marshall more involved (thank god we got Gamble locked down).

#2 SCpanther

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 12:29 AM

Unfortunately, no one in the secondary is playing that well lately. Lucas is just the weakest of an uncharacteristically weak bunch.

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 12:30 AM

If we get rid of Jake let's pray for one of those once in a lifetime players. That's the only way we improve at that position in a short period of time. Thats something many people dont understand. We'd need one of those 1 or twice in a lifetime players at the QB position to match and beat Jake's poise and talent level. He's a solid player who is criticized to the fullest.

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 12:33 AM

All lucas does, is get look confused, get burned then point at other ppl like they missed an assignment, the least he could do is say "okay I suck....but its all my fault, i'll try harder not to suck as much."

#5 SCpanther

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 12:33 AM

If we get rid of Jake let's pray for one of those once in a lifetime players. That's the only way we improve at that position in a short period of time. Thats something many people dont understand. We'd need one of those 1 or twice in a lifetime players at the QB position to match and beat Jake's poise and talent level. He's a solid player who is criticized to the fullest.


I agree. Jake just needs to get it through his head that he doesn't need to force things, because we have a lot of talent on offense now.

#6 PhillyPanther

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 12:36 AM

relax guys - Lucas has been solid all year. He had a bad game. I think he won't have another in the regular season or postseason. He is a good player guys. Bad game. It happens.

GO Panthers!!!!

#7 SCpanther

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 12:37 AM

relax guys - Lucas has been solid all year. He had a bad game. I think he won't have another in the regular season or postseason. He is a good player guys. Bad game. It happens.

GO Panthers!!!!


The secondary has been off since the Detroit game. It isn't just one game.

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 12:38 AM

relax guys - Lucas has been solid all year. He had a bad game. I think he won't have another in the regular season or postseason. He is a good player guys. Bad game. It happens.

GO Panthers!!!!



Doood! Did you see him in Green Bay??

He's really looking bad. Let's hope that gets corrected but if it doesn't that man needs to go!

#9 MyDrunkardNC

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 12:39 AM

i agree about Lucas. He looked lost and out classed. Richard Marshall made some big mistakes too.

the panthers do need to start thinking about a serious upgrade at QB. Obviously Jake should continue as our QB through this year, but he's wearing down and I'm not so confident in that elbow anymore. Even his completed passes seem either behind players or to be sailing too high.

#10 SCpanther

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 12:41 AM

i agree about Lucas. He looked lost and out classed. Richard Marshall made some big mistakes too.

the panthers do need to start thinking about a serious upgrade at QB. Obviously Jake should continue as our QB through this year, but he's wearing down and I'm not so confident in that elbow anymore. Even his completed passes seem either behind players or to be sailing too high.


I don't think the elbow is the problem. His passes have never been on the mark. That said, he makes more big plays than mistakes most of the time and replacing him would be dangerous.

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 12:42 AM

Jake has had a bunch of flukey interceptions this year... most can't really be blamed on him.

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 12:44 AM

Jake has had a bunch of flukey interceptions this year... most can't really be blamed on him.


Amen. That second one was one of the luckiest football plays I've ever seen.

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 12:44 AM

Jake has had a bunch of flukey interceptions this year... most can't really be blamed on him.


I wouldn't go that far. He hardly ever puts the ball right on the money, which increases the likelihood of interceptions. Some of the tipped ints have been because of overthrows, and passes thrown behind receivers. I love Jake as our QB but I'm not going to absolve him of his mistakes.

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 12:44 AM

Jake has had 3 or so bad games so far this year.. which is typical jake. Jake is safe in Carolina as long as Foxy is here

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 12:45 AM

Every QB in the league overthrows and passes behind their receivers.


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