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Its obvious to anyone with a clue, the Panthers draft with their first pick...

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hahahahahha, the tags are ridiculous.

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agree, while most people are sold on guys like green & dareus, i think trading down and getting more picks is a better option to improve the team the quickest.

I'll disagree... First I believe there is a difference between The top 8 in the NFL draft and the rest of the first round. It's not guaranteed but with a top 8 pick (Which it's looking like we're sure to have) You have a higher probability of drafting a franchise player... and at the least the underachieve and turn into a role player... then there are a few that turns out to be complete bust being drafted that high. Point is we need franchise player and you have a higher probability of drafting that kind of player and someone who will contribute to the franchise long term in that position.

Now when you trade down to the late first round, second, and third round the chances of drafting a franchise player is greatly reduced, and the chances that player turns out to be a bust is greatly increased.

When you have the rare chance to draft at the top of the draft and take a low risk player you do it.... That would be like us not taking Peppers back when we did and just trade down for more picks since we needed a lot more players to make the team better.

I don't understand why a good amount of people here want to shy away from drafting proven talent or trade proven talent away for another shot at the 3rd/4th round draft crap shoot?

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I'll disagree... First I believe there is a difference between The top 8 in the NFL draft and the rest of the first round. It's not guaranteed but with a top 8 pick (Which it's looking like we're sure to have) You have a higher probability of drafting a franchise player... and at the least the underachieve and turn into a role player... then there are a few that turns out to be complete bust being drafted that high. Point is we need franchise player and you have a higher probability of drafting that kind of player and someone who will contribute to the franchise long term in that position.

Now when you trade down to the late first round, second, and third round the chances of drafting a franchise player is greatly reduced, and the chances that player turns out to be a bust is greatly increased.

When you have the rare chance to draft at the top of the draft and take a low risk player you do it.... That would be like us not taking Peppers back when we did and just trade down for more picks since we needed a lot more players to make the team better.

I don't understand why a good amount of people here want to shy away from drafting proven talent or trade proven talent away for another shot at the 3rd/4th round draft crap shoot?

wouldn't trade down to far, maybe trade from top 3 to somewhere in the top 10 if we can add draft picks and still get a impact player

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So you're saying we're not getting that A.C. Green guy from Georgia I've heard so much about?

They say he's supposed to be amazing.

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Sure he has great track speed because he has a long stride. His speed shows up in long routes, where his long stride can give him an edge over the DB. However he doesn't have the burst of speed needed to get good seperation on shorter and medium routes. This is probably part of the reason Davidson is calling pass plays that require a lot of time to develope. When a WR with Gettis lighter build doesn't have seperation, and has to fight for the ball, the advantage usually goes to the DB, as they usually have a stronger build. That is reality.

You are aware that he ran 4x100s and 4x400s, right? He's a sprint runner, not a marathon track runner. All of his speed comes from one huge burst, just like all other short distance runners.

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If we have the #1 overall pick, we won't be able to trade out of it more than likely. No one wants to pay that kind of money.. unless they have the 'fixed' money for draft positions now.

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If we have the #1 overall pick, we won't be able to trade out of it more than likely. No one wants to pay that kind of money.. unless they have the 'fixed' money for draft positions now.

Just trade down a few spots. The #1 spot and #3-4 spot aren't that much different moneywise.

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You are aware that he ran 4x100s and 4x400s, right? He's a sprint runner, not a marathon track runner. All of his speed comes from one huge burst, just like all other short distance runners.

Here now is a direct quote from David Gettis himself:

What are your favorite routes to run?

"Well my favorite routes to run... probably anything verticle routes, anything over 15 yards, where I can build up my speed, you know, I have long strides..."

The guy is 6'4", and I'm not seeing this huge initial burst on the field. Doesn't look like opposing defenses are seeing it either, given the defensive formations they're using.

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How awesome would it be if KT looked like McLovin from Superbad in real life?

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Here now is a direct quote from David Gettis himself:

What are your favorite routes to run?

"Well my favorite routes to run... probably anything verticle routes, anything over 15 yards, where I can build up my speed, you know, I have long strides..."

Isn't that the route every single wide receiver wants to run? Which receiver is like, "nah dude, I like to run those short routes so I get hit in the mouth as soon as I touch the ball."

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Isn't that the route every single wide receiver wants to run? Which receiver is like, "nah dude, I like to run those short routes so I get hit in the mouth as soon as I touch the ball."

Yeah because a Safety will leave you alone on the deep routes. Right good post.

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I'll disagree... First I believe there is a difference between The top 8 in the NFL draft and the rest of the first round. It's not guaranteed but with a top 8 pick (Which it's looking like we're sure to have) You have a higher probability of drafting a franchise player... and at the least the underachieve and turn into a role player... then there are a few that turns out to be complete bust being drafted that high. Point is we need franchise player and you have a higher probability of drafting that kind of player and someone who will contribute to the franchise long term in that position.

Now when you trade down to the late first round, second, and third round the chances of drafting a franchise player is greatly reduced, and the chances that player turns out to be a bust is greatly increased.

When you have the rare chance to draft at the top of the draft and take a low risk player you do it.... That would be like us not taking Peppers back when we did and just trade down for more picks since we needed a lot more players to make the team better.

I don't understand why a good amount of people here want to shy away from drafting proven talent or trade proven talent away for another shot at the 3rd/4th round draft crap shoot?

Now did you actually research your first three paragraphs, where you try to compare the likelihood of success when drafting in the top 8 as opposed to the rest of the first round, or are you just saying that because you want us to draft an "elite" prospect rather than a player taken after the top ten like Jon Beason, Clay Matthews, Deangelo Williams, Hakeem Nicks, Aaron Rodgers, Ed Reed, Patrick Willis, Reggie Wayne, etc.?

Let's not forget about players not even drafted in the first round like Ryan Kalil, Lamarr Woodley, Greg Jennings, Trent Cole, etc.

It's pretty clear that great players can be found throughout the draft. It's also pretty clear that busts can be found throughout the draft as well and that the draft is a crapshoot in general, not just the third or forth round as you suggested. Being drafted in the top 8 doesn't make you a lower risk, if anything its a higher risk drafting a guy that high when you consider the amount of money you're gonna have to pay him of he flops, esp if its a QB. None of these guys are proven.

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