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#1 Cracka McNasty

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Posted 14 November 2010 - 08:11 PM

So my friend and I got into a heated argument during the panthers game today about who we should take should we get the first overall pick. I was in Luck's corner, and he in AJ's.

He said that Green is the clear choice for our team because Clausen is our future, he will be great, he just needs a good supporting cast around him. I argued that he already has a good supporting cast, the offense just looks like poo due to bad play calling and clausen looks like a deer in headlights under center. He then claimed that AJ Green was a once in a lifetime talent at WR and we need a WR more than a QB so heat can be taken off smith. I said that we drafted 3 already this past draft so it seems unnecessary to take another. He said it was unnecessary to take another QB then.

The entire argument seemed like he was being a huge homer, specifically when he claimed that luck is only a decent Pac-10 QB, and won't be an elite one in the NFL because he only plays in the Pac-10, but Clausen will... I called him a retard then named every good QB to ever come out of the Pac-10 in the history of the NFL.

but anyway, who do you think we need more and why, and who do you think the panthers will actually take if given the chance?

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Posted 14 November 2010 - 08:13 PM

AJ Green should not be the #1, or #2 pick in my opinion, but I know he's good. Depends on what our new coach wants really. I would probably take luck if Clausen doesn't explode the rest of the year. I do not think we need Green and tbh I think we would be better off taking someone on the D end if not Luck

Your friend is a dumbass, by the way.

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Posted 14 November 2010 - 08:24 PM

I feel like if we're at #1. We only have two choices.

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Posted 14 November 2010 - 08:26 PM

I still say Pat Peterson

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Posted 14 November 2010 - 08:27 PM

How many people are gonna make the same fuging thread?

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Posted 14 November 2010 - 08:28 PM

I think we're fine at WR, so I'd pass on Green. Being honest, I really really want Luck on this team. He just seems like the franchise QB that this team has been longing for, and I think he'd be too good to just pass up if we're given the opportunity to draft him. I'm tired of the mediocre, "game manager" QB that we're so used to. I want a guy like P Manning, Brady, or Rodgers, and I think Luck can be that guy. Plus, I'm not sold on Jimmy Checkdown.

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Posted 14 November 2010 - 08:30 PM

Neither. I'd hope that we would trade down and get someone to stop All Opposing Running Backs from looking like future hall of famers.

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Posted 14 November 2010 - 08:30 PM

How many people are gonna make the same f**king thread?

no, see mine is different, because I'm telling you to pick between luck or green.

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Posted 14 November 2010 - 08:39 PM

Trade down if we aren't going to get Luck if he stays the top QB prospect by draft day.

AJ Green looks good but we don't have room for him in a now crowded position considering the help we are going to need on both lines and at corner.

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Posted 14 November 2010 - 08:41 PM


Theres not enough great O Linemen in this draft, so I wouldn't go there either.

I know our defense is light years ahead of the O at this point but I don't think that's really because of lack of personnel on offense. With a new coordinator they will be better. We have to take a DT(Dareus) or get Peterson and tell Marshall to F himself. He has not produced this year after all that whining he did in the offseason.

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Posted 14 November 2010 - 08:50 PM

How many people are gonna make the same f**king thread?

in the last week, the need to get even younger in the passing game has taken precedence. I'm sure fans that make posts about next April's draft will have a lot of patience with even more players at the two positions least likely to pay off up front.

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Posted 14 November 2010 - 08:58 PM

After watching UGA yesterday I would say A.J Green aka A.J wet dream, because that's what I have every time I think of us being able to get him

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Posted 14 November 2010 - 09:00 PM

I would say you have to make sure you have someone who can deliver the ball to a WR before you draft a WR... but that's just me.

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Posted 14 November 2010 - 09:07 PM

Ok, IMO here's the thing, do you think Clausen can be our Franchise QB?, right now I will say no, but with that said he could also turn out to be that QB. here's the thing, if we get a Franchise QB we are good for the next 10+ years. having a good QB can go a long way and is the most important player on the field whether you believe that or not, he makes the offenses world go round, look at both Mannings, Tom Brady, Big Ben, ect. those teams are contenders year in and year out in large part because of the QB.

that's why if you think you have a shot at a Franchise QB you take it, but with that said do you think Luck is the guy that can do it or is he just Alex Smith V2.0 where he's more thought of being the best QB in the draft instead of actually being worth the 1st pick? because honestly I don't watch a lot of College Football(in large part due to my Job, and the fact that I'm in Australia at the moment) but I never even heard of Luck till this season, so is he the real deal or just the best of what there is? now if you think he's the real deal, we take luck and trade Clausen for whatever we can get, some times there is a point were you cut your losses and go straight for what you need.

Now if you don't think that Luck is the Franchise player we are looking for then I think it's gotta be A.J Green we need a WR bad, Smith isn't getting any younger and honestly he's getting close to the age where he will nolonger be a true 1st option, so right now AJ Green is the player I want, not because I don't think we need a QB, just because I don't think Luck is the Answer.

now with all of that said, this is basically because I knew who AJ Green was last year and I didn't know who Luck was till this season. and I don't like chasing players with high picks that I didn't even know existed till a month and a half ago.

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Posted 14 November 2010 - 09:10 PM

I think we're ok at WR right now. Gettis and Lafell have played much better in the last few weeks, and Smitty is...well Smitty. We can find a nice WR in the late rounds. Most 1st round WRS don't do anyhting anyway.

We can pick up Jerry Rice in his prime and it won't matter unless we have a QB. Draft Luck.

But it won't matter because Jr is going to trade our 1st pick for a late 1st and a 2nd....so