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This is why trading up for Armanti Edwards was stupid..(ps SCP went to Eastern Car.)


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#106 bleys

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Posted 01 December 2010 - 11:57 PM

Again, the one question that has been asked and not answered. Back in the spring did anyone say anywhere that this pick would become the 33rd pick? I don't recall many threads or posts saying that we were going to be a 1-15 or 2-14 team and get the first picks of rounds 1 and 2. I'm not saying the pick was a good one, I just don't think anyone on here thought we would be this bad. There is nothing we can do about it now except hope that the kid develops into something in a year or two. Hopefully he will and since I didn't have a say so in where he was drafted (and neither did Edwards) I'm not going to blame him for the pick.


Saying the 33rd pick overall is only to put emphasis on trading up.. Whether it was a 33rd pick overall or 53rd pick, we still gave up a 2nd rounder.. which is the point SouthCak was originally making..

it just so happens this sucks even more because it is the 33rd pick overall...

#107 jasonluckydog

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 12:01 AM

Everette Brown


2nd round pick and we dont do well in the 2nd,.we gave up a 1st for him.

#108 chef17

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 12:03 AM

I don't understand how anyone can pass judgement on Edwards without seeing him play. Randle El played in 16 games his rookie year. And before anyone brings it up, the reason Edwards doesn't play is because Richardson drafted him, and Fox won't play him.


It could be because he is still learning WR. Richardson drafted Lafell and Gettis, both of which fox plays.

#109 firemoose

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 12:07 AM

Hell no, I was one of the idiots who thought we had 9-10 wins in us.

But I was never on board with the trade to get him. And I'm not blaming Armanti.

Antwaan Randle El is about the same size as Armanti. He was drafted in the 2nd round, #62 overall. His rookie year 2002 stats can be viewed here:
http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=RAN399604
Since we suck this year and are being forced to look at the draft already, are these stats worth a #33 overall pick if Armanti develops into a Randle El?


No they are not. A third-forth round pick with time for development maybe but not a second. The problem is that there are so many people on here that are pissed that a FCS college QB hasn't developed into an NFL receiver and returner in less than a year and seem to blame Edwards for everything from the economy to global warming. Hell, we've drafted FBS college receivers that didn't develop into NFL receivers.

I was born in Boone and grew up there. I hated it when we drafted Edwards and traded up to do it since I knew he was going to take time to become an NFL player, if at all, and I knew, after all the trades we had made in the past few years, he was going to catch hell if he didn't become a star right away. I'm not one who thought he would be there in the later rounds but that was only based on what I was reading during the draft. And since we can't go back in time we'll never know. I just am taking a little longer view and HOPING that he will pick up the position and become a good player. And blaming the FO in the process:D.

#110 firemoose

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 12:10 AM

Saying the 33rd pick overall is only to put emphasis on trading up.. Whether it was a 33rd pick overall or 53rd pick, we still gave up a 2nd rounder.. which is the point SouthCak was originally making..

it just so happens this sucks even more because it is the 33rd pick overall...


Agreed. See above post.

#111 beastson

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 12:15 AM

Hurney has made some very good moves, no doubt about that.

Doesn't mean he can't get ripped for this move.


He also made several dumb ass ones

Edited by beastson, 02 December 2010 - 12:21 AM.


#112 YourMomsLover

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 12:23 AM

Woo, tru dat.

The E. Brown and Armanti trades are my two biggest beefs with Hurney.


My biggest beef with Hurney is him getting disabled slack asses like your man Otah. Damn...Otah is playing just as well as Edwards right now.

#113 rico6

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 12:54 AM

Let's see

Hardy was a projected 1st at one time so was Lafell, Connor, Khali (sp) and I cant think of the others right at the second

He signed Jake, S Davis and several other FA cant remember them all at the moment...All of our 1st rounders have been starters and very good starters. Many good picks and a few bad ones..Dont have the time to go into detail playing COD and we have a 40 second break.


I could easily name you (more like go into great detail) into all of Hurney's utterly retarded FO Moves, Acquisitions, Drafting, horribly failing on his short stint on mortgaging the future to win now (now as in back in 08-09) etc.

For every good solid move by Hurney. He makes 2 horrendous ones in the process.

Hurney is overrated as all hell around here.

#114 App Panther

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 12:55 AM

None of this matters. Ten years from now the Panthers will be playing somewhere else.

#115 Icege

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 01:27 AM

Could somebody link me to all the teams with a FO that's gotten every or a majority of their draft picks right?

Or is that just as much of an unrealistic expectation?

#116 rico6

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 02:18 AM

Could somebody link me to all the teams with a FO that's gotten every or a majority of their draft picks right?

Or is that just as much of an unrealistic expectation?


Because Hurney's faults are solely based on his misfires in drafting.

Calm down, read, and try your rebuttal again.

#117 Urrymonster

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 06:57 AM

I could easily name you (more like go into great detail) into all of Hurney's utterly retarded FO Moves, Acquisitions, Drafting, horribly failing on his short stint on mortgaging the future to win now (now as in back in 08-09) etc.

For every good solid move by Hurney. He makes 2 horrendous ones in the process.

Hurney is overrated as all hell around here.


Go on then

#118 cookinbrak

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 07:18 AM

Could somebody link me to all the teams with a FO that's gotten every or a majority of their draft picks right?

Or is that just as much of an unrealistic expectation?


The Colts do pretty good, and they generally pick very late in the rounds. They have a good GM.....

#119 Sandy Claws

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 08:36 AM

I could easily name you (more like go into great detail) into all of Hurney's utterly retarded FO Moves, Acquisitions, Drafting, horribly failing on his short stint on mortgaging the future to win now (now as in back in 08-09) etc.

For every good solid move by Hurney. He makes 2 horrendous ones in the process.

Hurney is overrated as all hell around here.


If he only could have been armed with the same hindsight when making those moves that folks here use when evaluating him.

BTW. Trading picks for older veterans near the end of their careers is mortgaging the future. Trading picks to get young players earlier and developing them into your system is not.

#120 Carolina Husker

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 08:47 AM

lol just in case anyone was unaware, SouthCak went to Western.


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