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#16 nosuchthingasapanther


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Posted 20 December 2010 - 08:28 AM

Why is the "rookie" excuse okay to pin on Clausen but the remaining rookies on the field don't seem to be having problems... unless those problems are specifically related to the QB getting them the ball.

The 3rd down and 17 5-yard pass play is not a rookie issue- it's an issue of him checking down the vast majority of the time.

then he needs to be taught not to.

there are errors that you can get away with in college that you can't get away with in the nfl. rookies have to learn (someone has to teach them) the correct way to do things.

clausen has no veteran leadership to guide him and apparently lacks a quality qb coach to teach him.

even the highly anticipated andrew luck would have problems under the same conditions.

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 08:30 AM

So the better option than checking down to an open RB is to throw a pick?

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 08:33 AM


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Posted 20 December 2010 - 08:36 AM

Could this not be an issue with recievers not getting open?

Lets face it, a 3rd and 17 is a killer for any rookie QB with 2 rookie WR's on the field.

I'm not thinking or believing it's been an issue for 14 games....

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 08:38 AM

Interestingly the running game has really emerged in the last 4 or 5 games despite a terrible passing game. Seems the difference is that is the running game we have talent and players are improving such as Goodson.

In the passing game you can't really see much improvement. Clausen plays better against a really sorry team but you don't see a game to game increase in defensive recognition from watching film or practice. Sure he makes rookie mistakes but keeps making them over and over and never seems to adjust or figure out what he is seeing. Most of his sacks come from poor recognition of where the pressure is coming from and any audiblizations at the line to alter plays or see the hot reads.

There is the chance he improves over time but how long should we give him? 2 or 3 years? And in the meantime suck? I would prefer to find a veteran who can actually play right now and then develop Clausen as a project. That way if he develops over time he will worth the pick invested. And if like Weinke he never develops, we can move on without having to suck for years in the process.

Edited by panthers55, 20 December 2010 - 08:41 AM.

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 08:38 AM

Both with it being moreso A.) than B.).

Clausen seems to be going down a very similiar path as David Carr

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 08:57 AM

I'd love to say b, but when a pro QB (rookie or not) cannot hit the quick slant pass in the red zone (pass to Goodson, at his feet, otherwise a sure TD) - he's just terrible.

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 09:08 AM


only haters will say a

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 09:10 AM

My biggest concern with Clausen is his extremely slow release. That needs to be corrected by a legit NFL QB coach....

My biggest concern with Clausen is he throws like a big vagina and looks like a midget.

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 09:13 AM

doesn't matter because no way do we pass up on luck (or newton).

only way we pass on either of those two guys is if clausen has left no doubt that he is the man.

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 09:43 AM

The overall shittiness of the players around him don't have any direct affect on his average arm strength, slow mechanics, trepidation of throwing from the pocket or happy feet.

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 10:01 AM

A combination of both (A) and (B).

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 10:03 AM

some of a and a little b. Clausen just isn't good......and looking at rookie like Skeleton just brings out how bad Clausen really has been.

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 10:04 AM

the real answer is both A and B, but we won't get to realize it's true until situation B) leaves in the offseason.

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 10:19 AM

a) Clausen is terrible because he is ...well.... terrible.

B) Clausen is terrible because he is playing behind a suspect OL, has 1 veteran WR with a hurt hand, and has Jeff Davidson calling plays.

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