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The Pro Clausen Thread....

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it takes at least 3 years to fully evaluate a rookie.

So we made need 4-5 years to determine he stinks?

Man the next few years are going to be tough

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cough Dwayne Jarret cough

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cough Dwayne Jarret cough

cough You can't count that since that coaching staff is NOT here anymore cough

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Catman, are you on the Panthers payroll? You sound like it. Its ok, this is just a forum, u can voice ur true feelings here.

It's not a matter of feeling, it's a matter of fact.

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*cough* not adding anything I'm just sick *cough*

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blinded optimism.

I hope he does well too. But I just don't see anything in Jimmy Clausen that is going to make him our guy. I'm glad Rivera isn't throwing him under the bus like Foxy did.

I agree 100%

Call me a retarded fan if you want, but i was on the "jimmy will suck in NFL" bandwagon before he was even drafted. If he ends up being our franchise QB then I will make a public apology, but I've never liked the kid and I don't think he will be a good pro.

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As others have stated, the kid had nothing to work with. And kid is the best term for him in NFL stature. He turned 23 when the season started, had a terrible O-line that was without their beast of a RT. All of the RB's were hurt at some point this year, two rookie WR's and the best offensive weapon was oft-injured and pouty when he wasn't. Tight ends? Really... come on. His GM/owner gave him no weapons via free agency and his coaching staff was out to lunch and he had minimal leadership getting him acclimated to the NFL speed of the game. Yes, he looked terrible and his release is too low, small hands, etc., but passing judgment on a 2nd round QB (that could've gone late 1st), played in a pro-style offense at a top college program after one season is kinda jumping the gun. I'm not saying he will be Steve Young or Joe Montana, but to ship him out without evaluating him for a couple of seasons is a little brash.

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I am hesitant to be PRO Clausen, but I am not ruling out improvement and progression in his play. That said, he had no chance to succeed this year so it's a bit harsh to make any firm judgement on him either way.

Regardless, we should bring in a vet who has impeccible work ethic off the field. If the best thing Jimmy achieves is always being prepared and working hard, the worst we have with him is a great back up.

This is where I stand on the matter as well. Don't be overly critical and accept his faults, but still be willing to accept that he may not be the future if he shows that to be the case.

:grouphug:

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I don't know for sure that Clausen is a bust, but I'm pretty sure he's not going to be very good, either.

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There are two types of people on this board.

Those who know for sure that Clausen is a bust.

And those with actual football knowledge.

These two traits cannot exist in the same person.

Plain and simple, the jury is still out on Clausen. No one knows what he is capable of within a legit NFL offense and adequate coaching. To pretend otherwise just makes you look like a football ignoramus.

then Moore might be the next Montana using that logic....b/c he actually showed some good play in the 09 season and briefly in 2010. I mean, he never played in a legit offense w/ adequate coaching either overall and has looked significantly better (career wise) than Clausen.

Clausen stinks. Plain and simple. Too early to call him a bust....NOT to early to call him garbage.

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then Moore might be the next Montana using that logic...

good......lord.

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good......lord.

that was called sarcasm Mr. Zod. It was applying your logic beyond Clausen and to all QBs. I mean if we don't know how good or bad Clausen is b/c of Foxy.....then how do we know what Moore is. Can't apply that logic to one guy and not the other.

Clausen just flat out stinks. Period. Clausen makes bad QB play look like a decent option.

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