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#1 Squirrel

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 05:30 PM

They are working on a deal right now in DC. Expected to meet today and tomorrow. Dont expect one to be done this time around. Hopefully they hammer out some details so that when they meet again they can finalize it.

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 05:33 PM

Yeah, I'm starting to have a little hope now. I'm not sure why they waited until 20-something days to get serious about this, but whatever...

I'll say this though... if we don't have a lockout, Richardson is going to look like a dolt.

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 05:37 PM

Yeah, I'm starting to have a little hope now. I'm not sure why they waited until 20-something days to get serious about this, but whatever...

I'll say this though... if we don't have a lockout, Richardson is going to look like a dolt.

all depends on what we do with all the extra cap space we have.

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 05:38 PM

I think we were going to go into rebuilding mode regardless of the CBA... but the CBA gave us a good opportunity to get started by allowing us to cut veterans without cap penalties.

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 05:38 PM

Yeah, I'm starting to have a little hope now. I'm not sure why they waited until 20-something days to get serious about this, but whatever...

I'll say this though... if we don't have a lockout, Richardson is going to look like a dolt.


Richardson is in a win/win situation. Dumped alot of salary this past season the books are cleared coming in 2011. So if there is a season we re-sign our key players and have some extra cash for free agency.

The season just ended the NFL was going to overshadow the SuperBowl with CBA talks. This is the right time to get them started. This is really the first round of talks to hammer a deal out. That is why I dont expect them to have a deal. As long as they get one done before March I will be happy.

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 05:38 PM

Yeah, I'm starting to have a little hope now. I'm not sure why they waited until 20-something days to get serious about this, but whatever...

I'll say this though... if we don't have a lockout, Richardson is going to look like a dolt.


Why? he used the uncapped year to get rid of bad contracts.

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 05:41 PM

Also dont expect the I dont expect the salary cap to go up if anything it should go down. When the owners opted out in 2008 it increased the salary cap alot. The owners will want some of that back.

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 05:45 PM

Why? he used the uncapped year to get rid of bad contracts.


No no no... nothing about salary moves... we won't know how that all pans out for another year or two.

My comment was reflecting on his statements about the CBA during his Presser recently. He cast a very long shadow over it getting worked out, and seemed like he was saying a lockout was a foregone conclusion. If a new CBA gets done, well, I guess he was wrong to say the least.

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 05:46 PM

No no no... nothing about salary moves... we won't know how that all pans out for another year or two.

My comment was reflecting on his statements about the CBA during his Presser recently. He cast a very long shadow over it getting worked out, and seemed like he was saying a lockout was a foregone conclusion. If a new CBA gets done, well, I guess he was wrong to say the least.


That's called playing hardball...

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 05:50 PM

Richardson is in a win/win situation. Dumped alot of salary this past season the books are cleared coming in 2011. So if there is a season we re-sign our key players and have some extra cash for free agency.

The season just ended the NFL was going to overshadow the SuperBowl with CBA talks. This is the right time to get them started. This is really the first round of talks to hammer a deal out. That is why I dont expect them to have a deal. As long as they get one done before March I will be happy.


So what you're saying is that if everything works out JR will look like a genius

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 05:51 PM

That's called playing hardball...


Hmm. Perhaps. But usually the tone is a leeeetle more optimistic towards the media about negotiations, if there really is a hope. I don't know that a press conference is the best place to try and stare down your opponent's hand.

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 05:52 PM

Hmm. Perhaps. But usually the tone is a leeeetle more optimistic towards the media about negotiations, if there really is a hope. I don't know that a press conference is the best place to try and stare down your opponent's hand.


Anytime the issue comes up, he has to stare it down.

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 05:52 PM

I'm not sure why they waited until 20-something days to get serious about this, but whatever...


it's part of the bargaining process (any bargaining process). both sides want to be perceived as not willing to budge. both sides want to wait for the other to slip up in some way (see D. Smith saying the players got a great deal last time). both sides don't want to be the one that admits that they are afraid of losing their source of income.

it's bargaining. leverage and pressure are the best weapons. the merits of the two arguments mean very little in comparison.

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 05:55 PM

Talks almost always wait until almost the last minute to get something done. Just cuz they are meeting, don't expect anything positive (or negative) for another 3 weeks.

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 06:27 PM

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NFL & NFLPA Labor meetings not going well, sounds down right ugly with a heavy possiblity of meetings sessions being cancelled tomorrow


stupid bastards. all of them.


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