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#1 rodeo

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 10:42 AM

http://www.miamihera...ory/892447.html

As her partner of 17 years slipped into a coma, Janice Langbehn pleaded with staff to let her into the woman's hospital room. Despite legal proof of guardianship and "power of attorney," Langbehn and the couple's three adopted children were not recognized as family and denied access until eight hours later -- just as the last rites were performed.

#2 Htar

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 12:18 PM

THey should've been admitted. But rules are rules.

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 12:26 PM

Those are always the toughest times for legalese and letter of the law honoring.
Glad they were finally able to spend time with her.

#4 Kevin Greene

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 02:52 PM

Hospice at home FTW.

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 03:13 PM

But rules are rules.


well the legally adopted children ARE legally family and by law had to be allowed in.

this was a case of an out of control hospital staff, and it's going to cost them millions.

#6 Kevin Greene

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 03:27 PM

well the legally adopted children ARE legally family and by law had to be allowed in.

this was a case of an out of control hospital staff, and it's going to cost them millions.



``This family deserves to have its day in court.''


Read: ``This lawyer deserves to have its day in court.''

That hospital could probably save many lives with the millions it will lose.

Sad really.

#7 Htar

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 04:00 PM

well the legally adopted children ARE legally family and by law had to be allowed in.

this was a case of an out of control hospital staff, and it's going to cost them millions.


And that's the important thing, isn't it? Sue away!!! We're all better for that, I'm sure.

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 04:02 PM

so i guess the hospital should just go unpunished for illegal and immoral action and carry on to torment more families.

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 04:14 PM

so i guess the hospital should just go unpunished for illegal and immoral action and carry on to torment more families.


So people that believe it should be illegal for a gay couple to adopt a child and believe the lifestyle in and of itself is immoral should be tormented by people who can't follow the rules so they sue to get their way?

#10 mmmbeans

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 06:02 PM

So people that believe it should be illegal for a gay couple to adopt a child and believe the lifestyle in and of itself is immoral should be tormented by people who can't follow the rules so they sue to get their way?


you said yourself it wasn't fair, that they should've been admitted.
If you think it's ok for law to be arbitrarily unfair to people then this is an entirely different conversation.

you yourself rail against activist judges, if you don't want courts overturning laws based on their beliefs, and you want a passive government that doesn't legislate these sort of things then the only way to solve them is through civil court, through the marketplace, through "damages."

Unfortunately this is the only way the law will be changed.

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 06:28 PM

you said yourself it wasn't fair, that they should've been admitted.
If you think it's ok for law to be arbitrarily unfair to people then this is an entirely different conversation.

you yourself rail against activist judges, if you don't want courts overturning laws based on their beliefs, and you want a passive government that doesn't legislate these sort of things then the only way to solve them is through civil court, through the marketplace, through "damages."

Unfortunately this is the only way the law will be changed.


The laws are what they are...But, out of human decency, they should've been admitted. If the woman dying had been her HUSBAND then she woulda had no problem.

Again, slippery slope with the gay marriage thing...Civil unions maybe, but outright legalization of same-sex marriages and the Pandora's Box is open.

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 06:42 PM

The laws are what they are...But, out of human decency, they should've been admitted. If the woman dying had been her HUSBAND then she woulda had no problem.

Again, slippery slope with the gay marriage thing...Civil unions maybe, but outright legalization of same-sex marriages and the Pandora's Box is open.


you don't believe that the majority of americans can separate homosexuality and beastiality? If that's true we certainly do need the government to take care of us.

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 07:05 PM

It's not the states or the country's business who gets married to who. It needs to be left up to the church. If the church is ok with it, which some are, then so be it. Why do people care so god damn much if a man wants to marry another man? It's none of your business.

On topic, it's pathetic what the hospital did.

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 07:17 PM

It's not the states or the country's business who gets married to who. It needs to be left up to the church. If the church is ok with it, which some are, then so be it. Why do people care so god damn much if a man wants to marry another man? It's none of your business.

On topic, it's pathetic what the hospital did.


reason!

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 07:17 PM

So people that believe it should be illegal for a gay couple to adopt a child and believe the lifestyle in and of itself is immoral should be tormented by people who can't follow the rules so they sue to get their way?


just because you "believe" something should be legal or illegal doesn't mean you can make your own law about it.

in miami gay adoption is legal. the kids were legally her children.

the people not following the rules were the hospital. they illegally denied access to the woman's medical power of attorney holder and legal children. any "torment" they face they brought on themselves through their illegal action.


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