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#61 Panthers128

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Posted 25 June 2011 - 11:51 PM

Sad day to be an American. The entire stadium packed with Mexicans, probably many of them here illegally and pushing drugs. The US goes up 2-0 and then seemingly quits. The Mexican players show more pride on the field and there fans show more pride in the stands as they easily score 4 goals to take the game.

But, hey, keep celebrating multiculturalism, liberals! It's working really well, isn't it? We're the laughing stock of the world. Anyone who saw that game would see the US as a pathetic nation of zombies who have no pride.

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 12:02 AM

idiots like you should stay in the tinderbox with not awesome

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 12:04 AM

idiots like you should stay in the tinderbox with not awesome


Moderators like you should learn communication skills so you can do more than hurl insults.

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 12:06 AM

awwwwww....hurt my feelings


from the idiot hurling insults at an entire nation

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 12:06 AM

Sad day to be an American. The entire stadium packed with Mexicans, probably many of them here illegally and pushing drugs. The US goes up 2-0 and then seemingly quits. The Mexican players show more pride on the field and there fans show more pride in the stands as they easily score 4 goals to take the game.

But, hey, keep celebrating multiculturalism, liberals! It's working really well, isn't it? We're the laughing stock of the world. Anyone who saw that game would see the US as a pathetic nation of zombies who have no pride.


GREAT stereotyping! I'm certain that the reason we are a laughing stock is based solely on our play on the pitch and not by statements such as that...

The U.S. is a "pathetic nation of zombies" because we have the NFL lockout, the NBA Draft, the NHL Draft, and MLB all going on in the summer. Soccer is only a recreational sport here, and because of that we will never be a soccer power. Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE to see us win a World Cup or two, but when you're going up against a nation like Colombia, where a player was murdered because he scored an own goal on an unlucky play that cost his team a chance at getting past the GROUP STAGE, I think it's safe to say the United States will always be overmatched.

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 12:10 AM

GREAT stereotyping! I'm certain that the reason we are a laughing stock is based solely on our play on the pitch and not by statements such as that...

The U.S. is a "pathetic nation of zombies" because we have the NFL lockout, the NBA Draft, the NHL Draft, and MLB all going on in the summer. Soccer is only a recreational sport here, and because of that we will never be a soccer power. Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE to see us win a World Cup or two, but when you're going up against a nation like Colombia, where a player was murdered because he scored an own goal on an unlucky play that cost his team a chance at getting past the GROUP STAGE, I think it's safe to say the United States will always be overmatched.


How is it stereotyping? There ARE a lot of Mexicans in the US who are here illegally and pushing drugs. There were some tens of thousands of Mexicans at the game. I can surely assume that they weren't just the legal ones who are decent people.

Also it has nothing to do with the fact they loss. The problem is the team had little support. NBA, NFL and NHL seasons are over and I don't know enough about the MLB to know if they're playing or not. How does the stadium end up filled with Mexicans?

It's pathetic. Why are the Mexicans in this country if they don't support the US? How do you not see any problems with this?

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 12:26 AM

How is it stereotyping? There ARE a lot of Mexicans in the US who are here illegally and pushing drugs. There were some tens of thousands of Mexicans at the game. I can surely assume that they weren't just the legal ones who are decent people.

Also it has nothing to do with the fact they loss. The problem is the team had little support. NBA, NFL and NHL seasons are over and I don't know enough about the MLB to know if they're playing or not. How does the stadium end up filled with Mexicans?

It's pathetic. Why are the Mexicans in this country if they don't support the US? How do you not see any problems with this?


Wow, I disagree with just about everything you said in this post. However, since it is almost 1:30 am, I will make the dumb decision to respond...

1. You followed up a question about the definition of stereotyping with a generalization.

2. FYI, I'm sure there are plenty of illegal immigrants who are decent people just doing whatever they can to make a living for their families back home, but that's a debate for the Tinderbox and if you're any indication, I should stay as far away from there as possible...

3. The stadium ends up filled with fans of Mexico because they CARE ABOUT THE GAME LIKE THEIR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT and we like to send our five year olds to the local rec league fields on Saturdays to have them kick a ball around for exercise. I believe the term is "Soccer Mom."

4. So since the Mexicans moved to the U.S. for a better opportunity, they should forget about their heritage? If you were to move to England, would you give up rooting for the U.S.?

Edited by cbarrier90, 26 June 2011 - 12:28 AM.


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Posted 26 June 2011 - 02:23 AM

Wow, what a sore loser. It's a game and you have bring issues that are not relevant to the game... loser talk. The USA gave a great game. They punched Mexico in the mouth. Mexico just responded instead of backing down. It speaks volumes of American futbol, they are showing plenty of progress. I don't know what game you were watching, but the USA never back down. They were more aggressive in the second half.

The only reason the USA would be the laughing stock of the world, would be because of close minded jerk offs that attack others just because of their nationality. You act like Americans don't push drugs.. also, are you seriously this stupid? Pasadena is like 4 hours from the border... read a history book while you're at it.. California belonged to Mexico once. I'm willing to bet that a lot of the Mexicans there are 3rd to 4th generation Mexican-American... Damn someone get this fellow an umbrella, because its raining cold hard facts in here.

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 08:29 AM

Worst defensive effort I've seen since the 90s.

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 08:29 AM

Sylvian doesn't even hide his racism anymore. I really hope you don't have any children to spread any of your bigoted bullshit to.

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 08:37 AM

Sylvian, keep your pro-rape, anti-minority stance in the Tinderbox or I'll make you disappear like Tim Howard.

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 09:20 AM

We were screwed as soon as Borstein got in there, but it would have been hard for us to win anyway. Chicharito and Dos Santos are just too much for our backs in regards to skill and pace. I feel bad for Tim Howard having to deal with our defense.

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 09:45 AM

Tim Howard had a terrible game...that one goal where the defender tried to head it away was all Howard's fault. He fell down chasing the Mexican player in the box. He gave up 3 soft goals that he could have made a play on, the second goal Mexico scored, Howard didn't even move. I don't think he's as good as he was during the World Cup. That game against Spain and this one...he allowed 8 goals. Not to say the defense played much better, they were getting sliced and diced by Mexico's very fast forwards. I was so pumped when they were up 2-0 then they just died.

And about the racism in this thread...it's people like that who are holding the world back. They aren't just closed-minded bigoted white Americans, they exist in every culture. Millions of people across the world have extremely negative things to say about Americans and they've never been here or even met an American. It comes from ignorance and not being exposed to the positive sides of different cultures during your formative years. Having parents that hold those views growing up doesn't help.

The reason the US soccer team wasn't well supported is because:

#1 - Soccer, while steadily gaining popularity, still isn't very popular in America. However, in almost every other country in the world (including Mexico), it is the #1 sport.

#2 - Our team isn't very good.

Just keep comments about drug pushing Mexicans to yourself. Nobody wants to hear that and what good are you doing by saying it? Maybe lay off the Fox news for awhile.

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 11:28 AM

Mo Johnston (coached/managed a few US teams) gave an interview for Scottish TV about the difference between soccer in the US and the rest of the world. In the US soccer is taught the same way as football is, in designated plays out of a playbook. In the rest of the world most people are just given a ball and told to kick it about. Basically what Johnston said was that US players lacked creativity and were to used to scripted plays. Soccer is to creative for scripted plays to work at a high level.

Some of you may disagree but that was the reason Johnston gave, I've never played soccer in the US so can't judge for myself.

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 11:59 AM

Mo Johnston (coached/managed a few US teams) gave an interview for Scottish TV about the difference between soccer in the US and the rest of the world. In the US soccer is taught the same way as football is, in designated plays out of a playbook. In the rest of the world most people are just given a ball and told to kick it about. Basically what Johnston said was that US players lacked creativity and were to used to scripted plays. Soccer is to creative for scripted plays to work at a high level.

Some of you may disagree but that was the reason Johnston gave, I've never played soccer in the US so can't judge for myself.


I can't stand these U.S. Soccer pundits like Alexi Lalas who constantly want to make up lame excuses for why USMNT can't succeed on the world stage.

The reality is, the greatest American athletes grow up with footballs and basketballs in their hands, not soccer balls. I know he's Canadian, but Tristan Thompson is the perfect example of the American idea of soccer: he grew up playing soccer, but after he hit a growth spurt he was encouraged to give up soccer and concentrate on basketball, which turned him into a star at Texas, and now a #4 pick in the NBA Draft.

Can you imagine if a guy like LeBron James, at 6'8, 260, dribbled a soccer ball down the sidelines? No team in the world would have an answer for him. Alas, he grew up on the playgrounds of Akron with a basketball, not a soccer ball, because at the end of the day, football, basketball, and baseball are the mainstays of sports in America and the sports we send our best athletes to play, while soccer is regarded only as a recreational sport and nothing more. That's the way it always has been here, that's the way it always will be here, and there's nothing wrong with that.


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