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#31 CRA

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 02:57 PM

I wasnt trying to downplay what he did, just he didnt play 3 or 4 years like most guys, which is how the guy made it sound. I guess he coulda done pooty and had no college success, I wonder if that would have been better for the writer.


yeah, he could of been Jimmy....





on that note, pending Clausen doesn't start a regular season game.....I am going to now lay off him and never discuss his play again.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 02:57 PM

You guys are a bunch of bitchy little girls about this.

It's his opinion. He could be right. Are you going to come in here and apologize if he is right?

Who gives a fug what others think. Start acting like men, not the cast of "Mean Girls"

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 03:01 PM

yeah, he could of been Jimmy....





on that note, pending Clausen doesn't start a regular season game.....I am going to now lay off him and never discuss his play again.


Probably a good idea, just remember, as bad as you think he was, he is still a better football player than you are at anything you do.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 03:05 PM

Probably a good idea, just remember, as bad as you think he was, he is still a better football player than you are at anything you do.


not true at all.

just remember, if you or I were that bad at our jobs a year in.....we wouldn't have them. NFL football ain't the real world.

Edited by CRA, 22 July 2011 - 03:09 PM.


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Posted 22 July 2011 - 03:09 PM

not true at all.

just remember, if you or I were that bad at our jobs a year in.....we wouldn't have them. NFL football ain't the real world.


Sailed over your head like a pass from Jimmy. Sorry

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 03:12 PM

Sailed over your head like a pass from Jimmy. Sorry


No, I just read what you wrote....you may have meant to write something different.

Jimmy is not a good football player.....therefore if YOU or I are average or good or great at something then that means we are better at what we do in relation to how good he is at football

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 03:28 PM

No, I just read what you wrote....you may have meant to write something different.

Jimmy is not a good football player.....therefore if YOU or I are average or good or great at something then that means we are better at what we do in relation to how good he is at football


wrong, as long as he is in the nfl, he is better at what he does than you or I. Get over it.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 03:30 PM

You guys are a bunch of bitchy little girls about this.

It's his opinion. He could be right. Are you going to come in here and apologize if he is right?

Who gives a fug what others think. Start acting like men, not the cast of "Mean Girls"



No, my problem isn't that I disagree with his opinion (though I do). My problem is he says something that ignorant without any real basis. Don't say a guy lacks work ethic or the ability to succeed without some logical reasoning behind it. Saying "he had too much success at the college level to be good" is fuging retarded. Let's think about other collegiate players who had a lot of success that worked out pretty good (thus far) into their careers:


Ray Lewis
Ed Reed
Adrian Peterson
Deangelo Williams
Ndamukong Suh
Mike Singletary
Ladainian Tomlinson
Warren Sapp
Larry Fitzgerald
Steve McNair (tore things up in the 1-AA ranks and was an All-Pro)
Charles Woodson
Bo Jackson
Tony Dorsett
Peyton Manning (no collegiate championships, but set many records)
Roger Staubach
Deion Sanders
Dick Butkus
Herschel Walker

Those are just off the top of my head. Probably many more, retired and current players. So, his statement is fallacious and ignorant, that is my problem (and I think most people's problem) with it. What, are we not allowed to bash somebody's opinion when they have zero basis for it?

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 03:36 PM

stopped reading at "post lockout"

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 03:40 PM

wrong, as long as he is in the nfl, he is better at what he does than you or I. Get over it.


not worth the back and forth but your point still is far from true.

Yes, Jimmy is employed in the NFL. That would be like someone in law enforcement going to work for the CIA/FBI........but if Jimmy was better at his job it would mean there incompetence would allow something horrific to occur where citizens and his fellow agent all blewup due to their inability to handle basics of what being an agent required. It would mean that agent was fired a couple months into the job b/c he couldn't even safely holster his firearm for starters.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 03:42 PM

not worth the back and forth but your point still is far from true.

Yes, Jimmy is employed in the NFL. That would be like someone in law enforcement going to work for the CIA/FBI........but if Jimmy was better at his job it would mean there incompetence would allow something horrific to occur where citizens and his fellow agent all blewup due to their inability to handle basics of what being an agent required.


You're reaching now, and your butt-hurtness has caused your mental capacity to diminish.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 03:45 PM

You're reaching now, and your butt-hurtness has caused your mental capacity to diminish.


it is not reaching at all........I just gave a real life example of how a person can get a job in the "NFL" of their field. Jimmy is very bad compared to his peers at this level......there are "NFL" equivelants to all walks of life. Most have more realistic results for when you suck though.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 03:52 PM

Wow Panthers #32?! Come on man..

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 06:59 PM

No, my problem isn't that I disagree with his opinion (though I do). My problem is he says something that ignorant without any real basis. Don't say a guy lacks work ethic or the ability to succeed without some logical reasoning behind it. Saying "he had too much success at the college level to be good" is fuging retarded. Let's think about other collegiate players who had a lot of success that worked out pretty good (thus far) into their careers:

Those are just off the top of my head. Probably many more, retired and current players. So, his statement is fallacious and ignorant, that is my problem (and I think most people's problem) with it. What, are we not allowed to bash somebody's opinion when they have zero basis for it?


His basis could be this (Please don't read this as my opinion of Cam):

Went to Florida...instead of studying, decided to take the easy way and cheat to pass indicating a lack of work ethic.

Went to Florida...was 3rd on the depth chart coupled with his possible expulsion and he took the easy way out instead of battling to work his way up the depth chart and left school. Meh.

Went to Blinn...played JUCO football and won a NC. Considering the great athletic talent that Cam is, it CAN BE ARGUED that he relied on his natural gifts to win and didn't NEED to put in the work based on the inferior opponents.

Auburn...decide for yourself. If you focus on him as a playmaker, you probably liked him. If you focus on him as an NFL QB, you might think he lacks work ethic.

He didn't take those raw tools at Auburn and fine tune them, they are still raw, which could show a lack of work ethic.

You could also see it that he perfected the game plan he was given and that shows that he spent time studying film and the game plan, which could show a great work ethic.

There are things about him that signal a lack of work ethic.

There are things about him that signal a very strong work ethic.

It's all in the eye of the beholder but to say his opinion is ignorant only shows your inability to view the argument from the other side of the table and really shows how narrow minded you are.

Whether right or wrong, agree or disagree, the ability to understand your opponents argument is vital and you've demonstrated a deficiency here.

I have a stance on Cam (which many of you misunderstand) but I 100% acknowledge there is another stance on him which can be built on as strong a foundation as my own.

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Posted 24 July 2011 - 08:16 AM

Two national championships back to back at different levels is impressive success. The fact he hasn't been built into the sytems for seasons and just walked onto 2 teams like that is pretty amazing.


AEdwards and Matt Lieinardt had one too but that does not translate into sucess in the NFL. Only time will tell.


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