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I'd like to see a poll with honest responses about who actually thought Armanti had a legitimate chance coming into this season to show any promise. I personally, had written him off. But he's showing life. No one would be honest though.

Im not an AE basher, cause i hardly bash anyone on our Team. However, I had somewhat written him off. and im still a skeptic. I will admit that.

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Ready to watch Killa Cam in preseason. With his natural ability I think bruh could be rookie of the year. Nice that's our staff wont discourage the fact he's a legit dual threat either

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And this is why everyone should be excited... Cam is a rookie, he's only gonna keep getting better. He had a lot of comparisons to Josh Freeman coming out, but he's ahead of Freeman so far.

I think he's gonna perform a lot more like Roethlisberger did his rookie year with more gamebreaking ability (and starting all 16 games).

Pure conjecture.

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All in all I say the two did well today, but in different areas. As mention Clausen struggled with the sideline comeback and Newton needs to work on keeping the ball down and not leading the WR so much. Clausen needs to treat positional drills the same as 11-on-11's. He tends to go though the motions and not play at game speed. His passes were lazy early on and got crisper as the practice drew on. Those first few passes are I guess what people were refering to as horrible.

To expand on this...

1. What did each do really well in 11-11s? What did they do the worst?

2. How is accuracy for each? Who is more accurate right now under pressure?

3. Does the offense overall look far behind the defense?

4. Do Cam and Jimmy seem to be picking up the playbook?

5. Are both guys still telegraphing throws or actually going through some progressions?

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Pure conjecture.

Ummm, yeah... this is a message board. Hence the use of "I think."

But, we're gaining a lot of evidence each practice supporting my idea that he's going to perform very well this year, even better than most people thought.

Why so negative?

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4. Cam knows 90% of the playbook, don't worry.

Edit: This was as of a few weeks ago, I'd assume it's near 95% now.

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To expand on this...

1. What did each do really well in 11-11s? What did they do the worst?-Cam looked frazzled and Jimmy looked like the vet. Jimmy was the one throwing the darts and Cam's accuracy faded big time. Jimmy progressed through his reads calmly and hit his targets...even Smitty who made McClain (I think) look like a rag doll juking him not once, not twice, but three times for a TD.

2. How is accuracy for each? Who is more accurate right now under pressure?

-Jimmy's accuracy was off in the beginning with no zip and slightly behind his first couple targets. Cam was spot on and throwing darts. Again, outside of the 11-on-11 there was no D-line present nor O-line to throw over, just pitch and catch with WRs against DBs. Jimmy has to get in a rhythm on comeback routes...as noted earlier, he struggled today with that route. From what I saw today, Jimmy handles pressure better.

3. Does the offense overall look far behind the defense?

-I'm worried about the DBs, both QBs torched them all day long. Most incompletions were on the QB or WR and RARELY the efforts of the cover man. In the 11-on-11 the D-line generated decent pressure "sacking" Cam once. This drill was one of the shorter ones and to be honest, a lack of a full compliment of players, doesn't paint a complete picture for me. The offense looked to be slightly ahead of the defense. Take that with a grain of salt becasue the dogs aren't off the leash as of yet. They are still playing touch football outside of the trenches. The lines were the only ones hitting today.

4. Do Cam and Jimmy seem to be picking up the playbook?

In short yes. One of the last drills was simply at walk-through pace where a play was given and the WRs jogged their route. At this point Shula halted them and made the QB talk about his progressions. If I recall neither Jimmy nor Cam got corrected.

5. Are both guys still telegraphing throws or actually going through some progressions?

I hate to sound like a broken record but the 11-on-11's didn't last very long and only ran once. Both seemed to go though their progressions, although Jimmy looked calm in his reads and Cam couldn't see the forest for the trees.

Neither looked to be telegraphing their throws, but that could just be a reflecton of our DB play as well.

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1. What did each do really well in 11-11s? What did they do the worst?-Cam looked frazzled and Jimmy looked like the vet. Jimmy was the one throwing the darts and Cam's accuracy faded big time. Jimmy progressed through his reads calmly and hit his targets...even Smitty who made McClain (I think) look like a rag doll juking him not once, not twice, but three times for a TD.

2. How is accuracy for each? Who is more accurate right now under pressure?

-Jimmy's accuracy was off in the beginning with no zip and slightly behind his first couple targets. Cam was spot on and throwing darts. Again, outside of the 11-on-11 there was no D-line present nor O-line to throw over, just pitch and catch with WRs against DBs. Jimmy has to get in a rhythm on comeback routes...as noted earlier, he struggled today with that route. From what I saw today, Jimmy handles pressure better.

3. Does the offense overall look far behind the defense?

-I'm worried about the DBs, both QBs torched them all day long. Most incompletions were on the QB or WR and RARELY the efforts of the cover man. In the 11-on-11 the D-line generated decent pressure "sacking" Cam once. This drill was one of the shorter ones and to be honest, a lack of a full compliment of players, doesn't paint a complete picture for me. The offense looked to be slightly ahead of the defense. Take that with a grain of salt becasue the dogs aren't off the leash as of yet. They are still playing touch football outside of the trenches. The lines were the only ones hitting today.

4. Do Cam and Jimmy seem to be picking up the playbook?

In short yes. One of the last drills was simply at walk-through pace where a play was given and the WRs jogged their route. At this point Shula halted them and made the QB talk about his progressions. If I recall neither Jimmy nor Cam got corrected.

5. Are both guys still telegraphing throws or actually going through some progressions?

I hate to sound like a broken record but the 11-on-11's didn't last very long and only ran once. Both seemed to go though their progressions, although Jimmy looked calm in his reads and Cam couldn't see the forest for the trees.

Neither looked to be telegraphing their throws, but that could just be a reflecton of our DB play as well.

Thank you for the most informative and balanced training camp post thus far in 2011 (IMO). Very appreciated.

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Thank you for the most informative and balanced training camp post thus far in 2011 (IMO). Very appreciated.

You're welcome. I want the best QB on this team starting and where I or other fans have that guy PERSONALLY ranked, either first string or backup, shouldn't make a hill of beans.

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thanks for the writeup, ncbobcat. Quite a different feel from some of the individual one liners from people that made me think Clausen was just downright awful today most of the time. It is good to hear he is adjusting and able to handle pressure better as that wash is biggest issue last season. Let's hope it's something he can build on and do better, especially making quick reads and decisions.

Cam will come around if he keeps working at it.. He's going to need time. I would rather Clausen be good enough to hold him off at least at the start than have him suck so bad Cam is our best option, because I *personally* believe that a quarterback can learn a lot sitting for a little bit of time.

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thanks for the writeup, ncbobcat. Quite a different feel from some of the individual one liners from people that made me think Clausen was just downright awful today most of the time. It is good to hear he is adjusting and able to handle pressure better as that wash is biggest issue last season. Let's hope it's something he can build on and do better, especially making quick reads and decisions.

Cam will come around if he keeps working at it.. He's going to need time. I would rather Clausen be good enough to hold him off at least at the start than have him suck so bad Cam is our best option, because I *personally* believe that a quarterback can learn a lot sitting for a little bit of time.

I've said it before and I'll say it again...

I'm a huge Cam fan but I don't care which QB does it, I want a superbowl dammit. We deserve it.

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The thing with the tweets is that Cam homers are only outnumbered by Clausen haters. Clausen is even getting booed at practice by "fans".

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