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#1 bbell21

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 10:00 PM

I was reading Steve Reeds latest article over at Carolina growl, and he had a quote from Smitty saying both Jimmy and Cam should do better this year in coach Chud's new West coast offense. I am a complete idiot for not knowing this? Are we running a West coast offense now? Or was this a mistake in the article by Steve Reed or Steve Smith?

Here is the article link: http://www.carolinag...atid=1:articles

#2 PiKapp27

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 10:06 PM

Chud primarily uses the Air Coryell offense, which is one of two styles of 'West Coast Offense,' but with notable differences from the one that you hear about more commonly.

Check out the Wikipedia entries; they're the quickest way to learn the basics of each
http://en.wikipedia....iki/Air_Coryell
http://en.wikipedia....t_coast_offense

In American football, "West Coast Offense" ("WCO") is one of two similar but distinct offensive-strategic-systems of play: (A) the "Air Coryell" system; or (B) more commonly the pass play system popularized by Bill Walsh. However, WCO may simply refer to an offense that places a greater emphasis on passing than on running.



#3 bbell21

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 10:22 PM

OK see to me the WCO has always been the Walsh run now ran by Andy Reid and several other nfl teams, and the Air Coyrell offense was something totally different used by the likes of Norv Turner which I knew was something similar to what we would be running here under Chud. I had no Idea the Coyrell offense was the original WCO until an SI screw up. Thanks for the total history of the WCO man!

#4 bbell21

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 10:36 PM

Ok i think my initial thoughts were right the Walsh system is the true WCO. The Air Coryell system was just accidentally called the WCO by Bernie Kosar when used to describe the 93 Dallas Cowboys Offense ran by Norv Turner who we all know Chud is a disciple of. So in other words thanks to a mistake by Kosar confused some people (I guess Smitty is one of them) and they sometimes mistakenly refer to the Coryell system as the WCO.

#5 edromeo

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 04:40 AM

Chud runs the Coryell offense not the current (Walsh) WCO.
In a sense Chudz runs the "original" WCO.

Here's a a few sentences from a couple of great articles about the Coryell offense and about Chudz's offense in general must read for any serious football X's and O's junnkie/ Panther's fan:

At it's core, the Coryell system is all about power running and vertical passing. That's it, nothing fancy about it. And just about every team in the NFL that isn't running a West Coast Offense runs the Erhardt-Perkins system we just left, or a variation of Coryell. Coryell can be done with anywhere from two to five receivers, it can include the Tight End as a receiver, as a blocker, or both. It's all about precise routes, play-action, and power running (Why else do you think John Fox allowed in in Carolina for so long?).


http://www.catscratchreader.com/2011/2/5/1975521/so-what-will-the-offense-look-like-in-2011-part-one

Today I'm taking a less in depth approach and looking purely at the statistics from three different seasons, the Carolina Panthers successful 2008 campaign, the 2010 San Diego Chargers where Chudzinski was the assistant head coach and the 2007 Cleveland Browns where Chud was the offensive coordinator. The words of St. Pete Times writer Greg Auman served as the catalyst for this discovery as he said yesterday over this


http://www.catscratchreader.com/2011/6/1/2200621/getting-to-brass-tacks-what-will-be-the-differences-in-chudzinskis

#6 pantherclaw

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 07:28 AM

It is not a WCO.

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 07:31 AM

Chud primarily uses the Air Coryell offense, which is one of two styles of 'West Coast Offense,' but with notable differences from the one that you hear about more commonly.

Check out the Wikipedia entries; they're the quickest way to learn the basics of each
http://en.wikipedia....iki/Air_Coryell
http://en.wikipedia....t_coast_offense


When I saw the OP's thread I was going to do just what you did, great post man.

And something to understand, we WILL run the ball and run it often. We will make Dwill catch the ball a lot more and be more of an all purpose back. Look at what LT did under Chud in SD and that will be the role Dwill should have. DWill and fans alike should be thrilled to see that.

#8 Gipetto

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 07:43 AM

Its the new Chudology f*ck you up like a boss offense.

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 07:47 AM

Its the new Chudology f*ck you up like a boss offense.


It's swagtastic.

#10 Vampire the buffet slayer

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 08:06 AM

It's swagtastic.


or Swagnificent, which ever you prefer.

#11 Davidson Deac II

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 08:16 AM

Honestly, it doesn't sound that much different from what Fox wanted to do, except that it uses the Tight End more. Lets hope they are better at running it.

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 08:24 AM

the air coryell pre-dates any WCO.
The WCO is a timing system with a lot of short and intermediate pass paterns.

Norv turner and Chud are not a WCO guys.

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 08:36 AM

When posters claim Clausen needs to be a WC QB they mean the Bill Walsh WCO.

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 10:16 AM

It is not a WCO.


It actually IS a WCO...just not the one that people mean (the Walsh system) when they say WCO

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 10:19 AM

Honestly, it doesn't sound that much different from what Fox wanted to do, except that it uses the Tight End more. Lets hope they are better at running it.



I think Smitty would disagree with that.

http://www.charlotte...h-new-look.html


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