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#76 thefuzz

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 02:28 PM

You really can't be sure that either dog is the parent of those pups without some kind of dna test.

I have a difficult time trusting anyone I haven't known forever, can you tell?



I guess, but I can tell when someone is feeding me a line of crap. The dogs that I buy (English Bulldogs) are very expensive, and the breeders cannot operate them as a puppy mill.

I spoke to the breeder of my dog before the pups were even born. I was there about a week later when they were still feeding off the mother. I picked out my puppy then with a right of refusal for another 4 weeks.

Maybe that's a bit overkill, but I wanted to know.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 02:29 PM

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Sounds like you'd try to return one within 6 months anyway.


Sounds like since you got your feelings hurt about being a panther fan you have followed me around with juvenile little jabs in a lame effort to troll.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 02:30 PM

I think you 2 should kiss and make up.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 02:30 PM

If you don't take the time to sit down with the breeder, and inspect the areas that the puppies are going to be raised in, you don't need a dog.


Yeah we are still a year off but I have already researched a few.

This one in particular gets glowing reviews and the place is supposed to be really nice.

If we go that route I will even post it here to see if anyone has used them.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 02:32 PM

My dumbass cat died a few weeks ago so we are in the market for a dog.

I want a golden and there are several in my neighborhood who all came from the same breeder in NC. They are all happy and healthy and beautiful dogs.

My wants a mutt from a shelter.

I think dogs are a major part of a family and I like knowing where they came from. I don't mind investing a few $$ in that.

Some people tell me its basically murder.

What say you?


Most dog lines from breeders have been over bred. Get one from the Shelter and you will have a friend for life! Who cares if it has papers or not.

Do you? (Have papers proving your linage?)

IF you absolutely have to have a certain breed of dog, go on-line and search for a rescue shelter that caters to that breed.

Much better than buying from a breeder who is most likely just a puppy mill!

IMO

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 02:35 PM


Do you? (Have papers proving your linage?)


Yeah but I am kind of a big deal.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 02:36 PM

what would labcorp use dead cats for?


perhaps they're trying to reanimate cats?


/always knew they were up to no good.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 02:38 PM

Because it just destroyed your favorite smoking jacket.

I thought long and hard about going to a breeder for a dog, but in the end the conditions at 80% of them are deplorable.

I guess you could look at it as a rescue in that sense too. Something is gonna happen to those dogs.


You could probably "rescue" a purebred from Blue Ridge Boxer rescue if you got on their waiting list.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 02:45 PM

You really can't be sure that either dog is the parent of those pups without some kind of dna test.

I have a difficult time trusting anyone I haven't known forever, can you tell?


I breed, raise, train, hunt and field trial AKC beagles.
And AKC does DNA profile the males once they have been bred a certain amount of times either in a year or lifetime. And if they dont match their pedigree they lose their registration and all the pups they have sired do as well.
I'm sure not a puppy mill only raise a litter every once in a while. But as far as not being truthful about the parents, thats just a real big no-no. Not saying some idiots might do it. Just saying if the breeder has any honor & integrity it's not an issue.

There is nothing wrong with getting a rescue know alot of people who have done it with great results.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 02:55 PM

Sounds like since you got your feelings hurt about being a panther fan you have followed me around with juvenile little jabs in a lame effort to troll.


Obsessive compulsive much?

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 02:58 PM

You could probably "rescue" a purebred from Blue Ridge Boxer rescue if you got on their waiting list.


Pretty sure we talked about it when I started that boxer thread about this time last year.

I was trying to find some firsthand references on local breeders because I simply do not trust them.
I was hoping I could get a reference to a family that has a pair and breeds them occasionally.

But I'm glad I waited. The vet says the pup I found is full blooded, but you really can't tell anyway. Most full blooded dogs passed off are not as full blooded as many people think. Papers can be faked easily.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 02:59 PM

I breed, raise, train, hunt and field trial AKC beagles.
And AKC does DNA profile the males once they have been bred a certain amount of times either in a year or lifetime. And if they dont match their pedigree they lose their registration and all the pups they have sired do as well.
I'm sure not a puppy mill only raise a litter every once in a while. But as far as not being truthful about the parents, thats just a real big no-no. Not saying some idiots might do it. Just saying if the breeder has any honor & integrity it's not an issue.

There is nothing wrong with getting a rescue know alot of people who have done it with great results.


do you see a lot of epilepsy in your beagles? our little guy has it and has seizures once a month or so... vet says it's fairly common in beagles

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 03:01 PM

I breed, raise, train, hunt and field trial AKC beagles.
And AKC does DNA profile the males once they have been bred a certain amount of times either in a year or lifetime. And if they dont match their pedigree they lose their registration and all the pups they have sired do as well.
I'm sure not a puppy mill only raise a litter every once in a while. But as far as not being truthful about the parents, thats just a real big no-no. Not saying some idiots might do it. Just saying if the breeder has any honor & integrity it's not an issue.

There is nothing wrong with getting a rescue know alot of people who have done it with great results.


Selling pups vs training for work are two completely different peoples. Ideally you want a dog from a working line.

Maybe you could point me in the right direction for a reputable trainer/school for the GSD.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 05:37 PM

If you can find what you want at a shelter go with the shelter, but if you can't go with the kennel. Don't feel bad about it either, yeah it sucks that people ditch animals and then they get euthanized, but you had nothing to do with it so it really shouldn't have to weigh on your conscious.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 05:40 PM

but you had nothing to do with it so it really shouldn't have to weigh on your conscious.


Agree.


If we are going to start claiming we have responsibility for every animal that doesn't get a fair shake, I would rather start dealing with unfortunate humans first.


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