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Fiz

Israel is basically a racist, xenophobic hell hole

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Jews are white?

the original zionists were from areas like germany, france, poland, and for a large part russia, so while they may not be scandinavian, it's not as if they're arab

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The people who immigrated to Palestine after World War I were, by and large, from Europe. So yes, they can be classified as white for the purposes of my comparison.

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Also it has been estimated that before 1917, the Jewish population in Palestine numbered around 50,000. It's now around 5.5 million. So either Jews reach sexual maturity by the age of 1 and have the mating habits of rabbits, or the the vast majority of Israelis are of European descent. And if they are of European descent you can bet your ass they consider themselves ethnically and racially different from the native Palestinians.

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Yes, the majority of jews that migrated to Israel after World War II were white. But many of the Jews that have migrated since then come a variety of places. Most of the immigrants nowadays come from Asia and Africa. By 1972, 850,000 Jews had immigrated from Arab nations to Israel. Many more came from Ethiopia.

Also, if you live in sun drenched Israel for a few years, your skin becomes darker. If you go to Israel now, you can't really tell the difference between Arabs and Israelis, at least not by skin color.

Any divides in Israel are based on religion, not race.

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allow me now to make sweeping generalizations about the celestial race

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Okay so they all got tans when they went to Israel. Good for them. Doesn't change my point in the slightest.

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a reason for what? banning an ethnic group from joining government?

that's called apartheid you stupid poo.

if iran banned jews from their parliament holy christ someone like you would be up in arms.

you and i have had discussions before regarding this area of the world. you know that i'm far more qualified at discussing this topic with you. do you really want to go about talking to me this way? for someone self promoting himself as intelligent, you resort to petty insults and generalizations way too often. fiz, i've schooled you before and i have no reservations in doing it again. my real world experience outweighs you sitting behind a computer screen somewhere in the states, attempting to stir the pot on a message board.

instead of putting your western society blinders on and looking at this from a liberal perspective, understand there is a difference in culture and reasoning. also think of it from a military perspective.

think of it like this. israel is a nation constantly at war. they have a demographic in their population who may be more receptive to the demands of the enemies that surround them. in the interest of your country and your people, why would you want that to happen? in that situation you have no choice but to live in paranoia.

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you and i have had discussions before regarding this area of the world. you know that i'm far more qualified at discussing this topic with you. do you really want to go about talking to me this way? for someone self promoting himself as intelligent, you resort to petty insults and generalizations way too often. fiz, i've schooled you before and i have no reservations in doing it again. my real world experience outweighs you sitting behind a computer screen somewhere in the states, attempting to stir the pot on a message board.

instead of putting your western society blinders on and looking at this from a liberal perspective, understand there is a difference in culture and reasoning. also think of it from a military perspective.

think of it like this. israel is a nation constantly at war. they have a demographic in their population who may be more receptive to the demands of the enemies that surround them. in the interest of your country and your people, why would you want that to happen? in that situation you have no choice but to live in paranoia.

Damn, Fiz. Owned again. Sucks to be you.

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you and i have had discussions before regarding this area of the world. you know that i'm far more qualified at discussing this topic with you. do you really want to go about talking to me this way? for someone self promoting himself as intelligent, you resort to petty insults and generalizations way too often. fiz, i've schooled you before and i have no reservations in doing it again. my real world experience outweighs you sitting behind a computer screen somewhere in the states, attempting to stir the pot on a message board.

im going to start all of my posts by reminding people that i've owned them in the past that'll be something.

now if I just get a bunch of people that hate you they'll follow me around agreeing with me every time we discuss something!

also I've never insulted you personally because i know you have experience in that part of the world. however if you're going to justify racism and apartheid then whelp that will change

instead of putting your western society blinders on and looking at this from a liberal perspective, understand there is a difference in culture and reasoning. also think of it from a military perspective.

lol calling me a liberal is very funny.

also i'm not a jar head like you so I don't look at things strictly from a military perspective.

think of it like this. israel is a nation constantly at war. they have a demographic in their population who may be more receptive to the demands of the enemies that surround them. in the interest of your country and your people, why would you want that to happen? in that situation you have no choice but to live in paranoia.

that's certainly one military centric way of looking at things.

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I don't think that restricting the ability of the Palestinians to participate in Israeli politics makes Israel safer though. I'm sure in their paranoid minds it does, but the more you oppress a people, the more violent they become.

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