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Could probably trade Hardy for a good pick if we draft Coples.

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If we have the #4 pick which is about where we are currently, would you trade it for the 18th and 23rd pick that Cincy currently has? I think I would.

Get (2) a very good OT, WR, LB and DT at that point. No real playmakers beyond the QB's and WR's in the draft. Not our best option.

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[quote name='stirs']If we have the #4 pick which is about where we are currently, would you trade it for the 18th and 23rd pick that Cincy currently has? I think I would.
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definitely

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What did ATL give up to move up that high last yr?

Cincy on verge of being very good if they draft well next yr

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[quote name='FugginPoo']What did ATL give up to move up that high last yr?

[B]Cincy on verge of being very good if they draft well next yr[/B][/QUOTE]

[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/30/report-mike-brown-wanted-ryan-mallett-not-andy-dalton/"]never forget who actually runs that team[/URL]

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Cincy might want to move up in the #4 slot for one of the premier WR's to pair with Green

Their Offense would catch up quickly with their D if say they get the big WR from South Carolina.

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Coples plays in the interior a lot?

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I found this little tidbit on Coples from rantsports:

Can Be Used as a 4-3 Defensive Tackle: Quintin Coples played 12 games at defensive tackle due to the fact that Marvin Austin got suspended last season. Coples will move back to defensive end this season. Coples is 6 foot 6 285 pounds so its not unrealistic to see Coples end up being used as a 4-3 defensive tackle if he bulks up.

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The Panther's currently sit 7th and that could be 9th after next week if both Denver and Seattle lose their next game. They are ranked higher because they have the highest SOS and that's what the draft uses first as a tiebreaker.

At that spot, they'll have a choice of Top tier OLB, CB, DT and probably either Jeffery or Blackmon.

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[quote name='Raging Bull'][URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/30/report-mike-brown-wanted-ryan-mallett-not-andy-dalton/"]never forget who actually runs that team[/URL][/QUOTE]

yeah seriously. two good draft choices doesn't hide the fact that Brown is one of the worst owners in [B]all[/B] professional sports.

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[quote name='Raging Bull']you're getting too hung up on the whole "starter" thing

OT and WR are also reasonable needs, but upgrading corner isn't going to do anything if there's no rush in the QB's face, and they have like 9 seconds to throw. Coples also has experience in the interior.[/QUOTE]

Yea I'm getting hung up on the "starter" thing. I don't want to draft a guy that's gonna sit on the bench while the two better players are on the field, or a guy that's gonna put a player of Hardy's caliber on hte bench. We don't need an over-saturated DE group while other groups suffer from lack of investment. I, for one, also don't want a D-line that consists of Johnson, Hardy, Coples and whoever the only real DT we would play in that formation would be. That'd be the smallest 4 man D-line in modern NFL history. You can't function that small any more.

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[quote name='JawnyBlaze'] I don't want to draft a guy that's gonna sit on the bench while the two better players are on the field, or a guy that's gonna put a player of Hardy's caliber on hte bench. We don't need an over-saturated DE group while other groups suffer from lack of investment. I, for one, also don't want a D-line that consists of Johnson, Hardy, Coples and whoever the only real DT we would play in that formation would be. [/QUOTE]

being 3 deep at the defensive end position is "over-saturated"

lol

[QUOTE]That'd be the smallest 4 man D-line in modern NFL history. You can't function that small any more.[/QUOTE]

Well then I guess the solution would be to match the offensive line pound for pound if weight is of such a high priority on the defensive line. The most recent measurement for your average offensive lineman I can find is about 312 lbs, So I guess we should just divide 1560 by 4, which means a front four needs to weigh an average of 390 lbs per lineman. <---- This is Jawnyblaze logic.

Ted Washington in his prime, Haloti Ngata, Vince Wilfork and B.J. Raji wouldn't come close to that mark. One of the best front fours in the NFL right now weighs an average of 286 lbs, which is 2 lbs less than the average weight of a line consisting of CJ/Hardy/Coples/Edwards or any NT we decide to pick up if we choose. Another high ranking starting DL currently weighs an average of 293 lbs.

Some esteemed NFL coaches such as Nick Saban for one were big on the whole "weight" thing as well. How did it work out there?

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