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Postal Service reports massive $5 billion loss

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USPS wants to limit next-day service

WASHINGTON (CNNMoney) -- The U.S. Postal Service on Monday will announce a cost-savings proposal that would no longer deliver first-class mail on the next day.

The financially troubled agency will present to its overseers a proposal to change its national standard for first-class mail to two-to-five days from one-to-three, according to interviews with several mail industry officials who received a presentation by the agency this week.

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These employees can't be laid off, per union contracts. But they can be forced to take a job that could be hundreds of miles away.

Consider the Oct. 1. closure of a mail processing plant in Sioux City, Iowa, which hit 95 employees. A half dozen employees retired early and 13 took jobs in Sioux Falls -- 82 miles away. Another 34 workers found employment within the postal service in Sioux City. The fate of another 22 employees is still unclear, according to the president of the postal union there.

"We have people who are 55 years old and spent their careers processing mail indoors and are now forced to carry mail in the elements in the Midwest," said Scott Tott, local president of the union local in Sioux City. "Yes, it disrupts lives."

http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/02/news/economy/postal_service_next_day/index.htm?hpt=hp_t2

I doubt this will do it guys... just cutting next day delivery.

Face it, mail service isn't what it used to be... with private delivery services like UPS and FedEx and with the internet and email, they really need to totally revamp the postal service. Yes some people will lose jobs and that is regrettable... but apparently with the cushy gov't/union contracts some of these jobs are guaranteed... what a crock.

...and :lol: at that comment about those poor mail workers having to ACTUALLY DELIVER MAIL... what has this country come to when mail service employees have to deliver mail. :rolleyes:

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First off, too much poo gets mailed out these days. I get 5-6 items a day in the mail and maybe 4 of them that I need - per week. And truth be told I could get all of them electronically. But of course the old people who are afraid of computers want to stick with the tried and true method.

Truth is half the poo that's mailed out every day is the postal version of spam. Packages and such are fine using UPS/FedEx anyway, the only problem is bills and regular letters and such. Trouble is those companies might not want to be bothered with distributing normal postal mail as it won't be nearly as profitable as larger packages. They probably won't view it as worth the trouble.

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wonder if we had this much whining with the light bulb and electricity were invented?

"oh no, the candle makers might have their lives disrupted" Hey, it is progress and change and you have to roll with it.

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automobile manufacturers put the poor cart manufacturers out of business :(

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It's not so much the jobs that would be lost only. The whole system just isn't cost-efficient anymore and yet certain basic aspects of it are still needed. Even if you cut a ton of postal workers you're still in a situation where the number of workers required to do even the basics costs more than the money that's coming in.

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Yet another reason for us all to come together in our hatred of old people.

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So if you're going to advocate scrapping the USPS and moving to electronic communication answer a couple of questions for me.

How are you going to guarantee that every home and every office has a permanent email address? [email protected]? Remember, the address has to be divorced from the person residing or working there so you cant rely on the public to set it up. It will have to be a government supplied address.

How are you going to ensure that at least one person at that address has an electronic device capable of retrieving and sending mail through this new system? Government supplied tablets? And how to you keep them from being taken off site and robbing that address of the ability to get mail?

Electronic communication has come a very long way in a short period of time but its not the answer yet. Maybe some of the children being born today will see the USPS cease to exist but most of the folks old enough to post on this forum will die before the USPS does.

Cut the delivery days to 3 and charge $0.005/pc more for bulk mail.

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So if you're going to advocate scrapping the USPS and moving to electronic communication answer a couple of questions for me.

How are you going to guarantee that every home and every office has a permanent email address? [email protected]? Remember, the address has to be divorced from the person residing or working there so you cant rely on the public to set it up. It will have to be a government supplied address.

How are you going to ensure that at least one person at that address has an electronic device capable of retrieving and sending mail through this new system? Government supplied tablets? And how to you keep them from being taken off site and robbing that address of the ability to get mail?

Electronic communication has come a very long way in a short period of time but its not the answer yet. Maybe some of the children being born today will see the USPS cease to exist but most of the folks old enough to post on this forum will die before the USPS does.

Cut the delivery days to 3 and charge $0.005/pc more for bulk mail.

That's what it will take, but that will cost delivery man jobs and the union has so far resisted that type of movement.

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Require that the USPS charge what it actually costs. The free market will have folks moving to better systems immediately. Many many entrepenuers will spring up to fill the gap. Problem will take care of itself.

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Bump

They've lost $15B+ this year alone...

http://www.cnbc.com/id/49992517

The head of the financially struggling U.S. Postal Service said the agency must be allowed to ease the terms of prepayments into a retiree health-care fund and eliminate general mail delivery on Saturday.

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Hummmm postal service running at a deficit every year, but changing nothing except the price of stamps....and it's still not working....wonder what that sounds like?

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