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#31 PaulSoleil

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 10:04 PM

"We put on a clinic on how to lose a game"

Yep, also Rivera was so pissed at our D, lol


how about being pissed at 4 interceptions?

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 10:09 PM

how about being pissed at 4 interceptions?


How bout being pissed at 35 second half points allowed....

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 10:23 PM

how about being pissed at 4 interceptions?


oh so someone repped you? here, let me fix that.

#34 Snake

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 11:13 PM

Rivera is still not explaining where the disconnect is with his defense. Is it between players? coaches? plays?

Why is the defense so terrible?


Its because he is not allowed.

2 reasons we are bad.

Line backers are #1

Rookies and young players are #2


But don't fret Marty has a plan.:rolleyes:

#35 Dpantherman

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 11:27 PM

who give a FF about any of the team reactions after the game - just give us some wins

uh, they are obligated to do so, no one is forcing you to listen.

#36 chef17

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 11:43 PM

Yeah, this time the defense gave a back-up RB his best game ever. The Panthers defense is way to charitable.

Can u imagine how many games this team could have won if the defense would just hold off a stronger team...How about holding off a team equal to their strenght on paper.

But u guys will make the NFLN top 5 team highlights with that return punt by your defense...;)


When did the defense start returning punts?

#37 Khaki Lackey

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 11:44 PM

Rivera: Opportunities to make plays - I mean at 3rd and 12, we don't get off the field, then they get a big play down the field, then they are in field goal range, then it's 3rd down and we have a chance to stop them, but they pick it up, next thing you know they score a touchdown. I mean, we are not consistent on third down.

Unfortunately, we have been extremely consistent on third down.

#38 mav1234

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 11:45 PM

Unfortunately, we have been extremely consistent on third down.


Both sides of the ball have been consistent when it comes to completion of third down conversions, at least across the season.

Unfortunately our defense has been consistent in the worst way. =|

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 04:12 AM

oh so someone repped you? here, let me fix that.


It's my fault. I intended to neg rep him (something I only do in extreme cases, i.e. PFFL) and inadvertently gave him positive rep.

Unfortunately, it is not something you can undo.

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 04:30 AM

It's my fault. I intended to neg rep him (something I only do in extreme cases, i.e. PFFL) and inadvertently gave him positive rep.

Unfortunately, it is not something you can undo.


But, I can try... :lol:

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 05:44 AM

The #1 reason our defense was bad is because our offense sucks.



First quarter:

Turnover #1. Lions have ball at their own 17. Intercepted. Huge win by Carolina defense. Lions Blow it.
Carolina gets ball at Lions 27. Points scored? 0 .

Turnover #2. Cam Newton intercepted in Lions red-zone. Total failure by Cam Newton. Lions drive to Car 25

Turnover#3. Lions have ball at Car 25. Intercepted. Huge win by Carolina Defense. Lions blow it.
Carolina gets ball at Car 18. Drive to Lions 12 yard line. Score 3 points. Failure by offense.

Turnover#3 Lions have ball at their own 29. Fumble. Huge win by Carolina defense. Lions Blow it.
Carolina gets ball at own 29. Touchdown. Good job by Carolina offense.

offense:
-scored 10 points all off turnovers from our defense.
-missed ~10 points off of turnovers when had the ball in the red-zone.
Defense gave up: 0
-Cam Newton intercepted in Lions red-zone
-Stafford intercepted in our red red-zone

Who played better? Carolina defense. Carolina offense stunk. Lions offense stunk. Lions defense played ok. Cam Newton stunk. Stafford stunk.

Second quarter:
-Lions score 7 points from special teams
-Carolina score 7 points from special teams

Lions first possession. Carolina defense forces 3 and out. Forces punt. Big win by defense.
Carolina offense 1st down at 48 yard line. Scores 7. Good job offense.

-Lions drive full field score touchdown. Bad job defense.
-Carolina drives full field score 3 points. Ok job offense.

Who played better? Lions offense. Everyone else about tied.

First half recap:
Carolina offense from full drives: 3 points.
Carolina offense from turnovers: 10
Carolina special teams: 7
Carolina offense from mid-field: 7
Carolina missed 10 points on turnovers.
Cam Newton threw interception in Lions red-zone.

Lions special teams: 7
Lions points from full drives: 7

Carolina defense:
-3 turnovers that led to 10 points( 2 turnovers near opponents red-zone)
-3 and out that led to mid-field starting position

Lions defense:
-1 interception

Special teams tied.
Carolina defense outplayed Lions defense the entire first half.
Cam Newton blew 2 red-zone opportunities
Cam Newton got picked off in Lions red-zone.
Our offense only had one full field drive and scored 3 points.
Lions offense scored 7 points from full field drives.

Third quarter:

1st drive. Carolina has ball. 3 and out. Failure by offense. Lions force punt.
J-Vaughn Penalty for horse collar tackle gives Lions ball at Carolina 30. Total failure by punting unit.
Total failure by offense side of the ball.

Lions get ball at Carolina 30th. Touchdown! Good job Lions offense.

2nd drive. Carolina has ball 3 and out. Failure by offense. Lions force punt. Great punt.
Lions get ball at Detroit 34. Drive down. Touchdown. Bad job Carolina defense.

Turnover #5: Carolina has ball at Lions 26. Cam Newton intercepted in the red-zone. Total failure Cam Newton.
Lions get ball at Lions 21 yard line. Defense forces 3 and out. Big win Carolina defense. forces punt.

Carolina offense scored:
0 points
Got 2 three and outs and a penalty giving Lions ball at Car 30
Cam Newton got intercepted.

Lions:
offense scored 7 points from turnover at Car 30.
offense scored 7 points starting at own 34.

Carolina defense:
-forced 2 three and outs.

Who played better? Carolina Defense! Offense stunk! Cam Newton stunk. Lions offense played good. Lions defense and Stafford played great.

4th quarter:

drive 1: Offense goes 3 and out. Failure by offense. Lions force punt.
drive 2: Lions drive from 31 and score touchdown. Failure by defense.
drive 3. Carolina offense drive from 20. Touchdown Carolina!
First full scoring drive of the game for 7 points
drive 4: Lions drive drive from 20. Touchdown. Failure by defense.

Turnover #6:
drive 5: Car has ball at 17 yard line. Cam Newton intercepted. Gives Lions ball at 23.
drive 6: Lions offense starting at 23 yard line. Touchdown. Good job Stafford. Carolina defense failure.

Turnover #7
drive 7: Car has ball 20 yard line. Cam Newton intercepted. Game over.

Who played better? Lions. Total failure by both Carolina offense and defense. Cam Newton stunk. Stafford and Lions played great


In the second half Carolina offense scored:
-7 points
-had 3 three and outs.
- Cam Newton had 3 interceptions
-Gave the ball to the Lions offense at our own 30 and 23 yard lines.
-Cam Newton got intercepted in the red zone once.
-Cam Newton got intercepted in our own end once.

Carolina defense:
-allowed 21 points off of full drives.
-forced two 3 and outs.


Total recap:
Carolina offense from full drives: 10 points
Carolina offense from turnovers thanks to our defense: 10
Carolina special teams: 7
Carolina offense from mid-field thanks to our defense: 7
Carolina missed 10 points on turnovers.
Cam Newton blew 3 red-zone opportunities
Cam Newton threw 2 interception in Lions red-zone, 1 in our own.
Carolina 3 and outs: 3(all in the second half)
Gave the ball to the Lions offense at our own 30 and 23 yard lines.
Carolina offense gave Lions 14 points off turnovers.
Cam Newton threw a total of 4 interceptions.


Lions points from full drives: 28
Lions from turnovers: 14
Lions from special teams: 7

Carolina defense:
-3 turnovers that led to 10 points( 2 turnovers near opponents red-zone)
-4 three and outs(1 led to mid-field starting position)
-allowed 28 points from full drives
-gave opportunity for 21 points from turnovers(offense only got 10)

Carolina defense outplayed Lions defense the entire first half.
Carolina defense outplayed our offense in 3 quarters of the game.
Carolina offense played good in 1 quarter: 2nd
Cam Newton throws 4 pics, two in the red zone, 1 in our own territory.
Cam Newton's main receiver was our running back, Johnathan Stewart
Newton's numbers:
Newton 22/38 280 7.4 1 4 50.2


end of story.

#42 God

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 06:16 AM

lol everyone stop responding to the guy. It's the only way it is gonna stop.

#43 TrueDat

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 06:29 AM

Yes everyone just bury your head in the sand.

From Charlotte Observer:


Panthers, Newton still not good enough in crunch time


The Panthers had led 27-14 at halftime after two of their finest quarters of the season, but got outscored 35-8 in the second half when the defense looked helpless and Newton looked very young.

Once again, Newton struggled late, with three of his four interceptions coming in the game's last 18 minutes. For all the numbers he has already achieved early in his career, he has yet to have a signature, game-winning, deep-in-the-fourth-quarter drive.

That made it easy pickings for former Panthers safety Chris Harris, who scooped up the deflection and raced to the Panthers 23 to set up Detroit's final TD.

Read more: http://www.charlotte...l#ixzz1eL2OkK5g


Just because you guys don't want to listen to what I have been saying for 3 months now, doesn't mean it's not true, others don't see it and even the media won't eventually catch on. Chris got his revenge it looks like. Didn't even notice it was him.

I'm sure if you just stop listening to everybody, then the 10 of you left can just post all by yourselves all day long on here and make reality whatever you want it to be.

Edited by TrueDat, 21 November 2011 - 06:31 AM.


#44 Shonuff

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 06:54 AM

Yes everyone just bury your head in the sand.

From Charlotte Observer:



Just because you guys don't want to listen to what I have been saying for 3 months now, doesn't mean it's not true, others don't see it and even the media won't eventually catch on. Chris got his revenge it looks like. Didn't even notice it was him.

I'm sure if you just stop listening to everybody, then the 10 of you left can just post all by yourselves all day long on here and make reality whatever you want it to be.


I agree with the article but expecting any rookie QB to do things Tom Brady, John Elway, Peyton Maning, etc couldn't possible do in their rookie season is insane.

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 07:03 AM

I agree with the article but expecting any rookie QB to do things Tom Brady, John Elway, Peyton Maning, etc couldn't possible do in their rookie season is insane.


I don't see where you get that from and Cam Newton's not exactly a rookie anymore either. We're 10 weeks in. He's got a total of 14 games under his belt now counting preseason.

Not sure what's crazier. Expecting to put away more than 1 out of 8 tied or close 4th quarter games or expecting your defense to not break when your offense plays this bad, and puts them in those types of positions. He's 1 for 8 in game winning comebacks. Dalton's had 3 already and he's a rookie too.

It goes both ways you know. Defense had more three and outs versus the Lions than the Lions did against our offense. But when our offense also puts our defense in a position to defend from the 23 and 30 yard lines against one of the most efficient offenses in the league, Cam Newton throws 4 interceptions, but fails to take advantage of red-zone turnovers our defense gives them, I'm not sure how you can't see that as anything other than total failure on the offense's side.

Especially with 3 interceptions in the last 18 minutes in a tied ball game. That will about do it every time.

Edited by TrueDat, 21 November 2011 - 07:24 AM.



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