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#13 Lout

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 01:29 PM

Clemson DLinemen = busts


I tend to believe this too. I'd like to stay away from Clemson DLinemen.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 02:00 PM

Pencil me in for Claiborne. The dude is filthy. Only way I take Coples is if he puts on some weight and we know for sure he can take on the grind at DT full-time. He's a good run defender but not much of a pass rusher at DE. He can be exactly who we need at DT if he shows he has the ability to play it every down.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 02:10 PM

Pencil me in for Claiborne. The dude is filthy. Only way I take Coples is if he puts on some weight and we know for sure he can take on the grind at DT full-time. He's a good run defender but not much of a pass rusher at DE. He can be exactly who we need at DT if he shows he has the ability to play it every down.


Coples could add weight to his frame and i think he could handle playing DT. he is a decent pass rusher and is starting to heat up i think he has a sack in the last 3 games or so.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 02:17 PM

After the up and down success of Julius Peppers, how many UNC lineman have made it big in the NFL. I know a lot of them have been busts.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 02:37 PM

I don't think it's a 'lock' that we draft one of these guys.. a lot of things can change between now and then.. also, you just never know who Rivera will fall in love with.
Some other guys that could be options are:

Quinton Coples
Zach Brown
Reilly Rieff (who grades out better than Kalil by many scouts)
Dre Kirkpatrick
Devon Still

fug what Rieff is graded, do you really think Ryan would let his brother play like poo? Id love to see the brother rivalry on the field, each of them one-upping each other. If we go O id be pleased with Kalil or Jeffery. Defense has gotta be claiborne. We have our star on O now its time for defense

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 05:04 PM

Pencil me in for Claiborne. The dude is filthy. Only way I take Coples is if he puts on some weight and we know for sure he can take on the grind at DT full-time. He's a good run defender but not much of a pass rusher at DE. He can be exactly who we need at DT if he shows he has the ability to play it every down.


Coples could add weight to his frame and i think he could handle playing DT. he is a decent pass rusher and is starting to heat up i think he has a sack in the last 3 games or so.


He's proven he could handle DT in the NCAA full time and he's already up to 285 with the frame to easily add 15-20 more pounds. It's his strength though that gives him the ability to handle the role, he's probably the best player in the draft at playing the POA and sealing the edge and playing the run. He can literally play 4-3 end, DT, NT and 3-4 End.


As for his ability to rush the passer, He's considered the best pass rusher in the draft for a reason. At UNC he faces double teams on just about every play and still has 7.5 sacks, 10 TFL and 51 tackles overall for the season. He's also one of the best Dline prospects against the run.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 05:32 PM

He's proven he could handle DT in the NCAA full time and he's already up to 285 with the frame to easily add 15-20 more pounds. It's his strength though that gives him the ability to handle the role, he's probably the best player in the draft at playing the POA and sealing the edge and playing the run. He can literally play 4-3 end, DT, NT and 3-4 End.


As for his ability to rush the passer, He's considered the best pass rusher in the draft for a reason. At UNC he faces double teams on just about every play and still has 7.5 sacks, 10 TFL and 51 tackles overall for the season. He's also one of the best Dline prospects against the run.


i agree with everything you said dude. im not a unc football fan but watching him play is refreshing.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 05:32 PM

Playing DT every down in the NFL is a completely different beast then in NCAA. He's going to get double teamed in the NFL so he's going to have to learn to split through it. That said his last 2 sacks were from the DT spot and had 10 last year too.

I'm just saying I want Claiborne, but, if Coples can show that he can handle UT on passing AND running plays successfully then I would consider him.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 06:16 PM

After the up and down success of Julius Peppers, how many UNC lineman have made it big in the NFL. I know a lot of them have been busts.


Not that I am a Clemson fan, but UNC has shown no better

Ryan Sims
Kentwan Balmer
Marvin Austin


Not exactly setting the woods on fire from Chapel Hill

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 03:45 AM

Playing DT every down in the NFL is a completely different beast then in NCAA. He's going to get double teamed in the NFL so he's going to have to learn to split through it. That said his last 2 sacks were from the DT spot and had 10 last year too.

I'm just saying I want Claiborne, but, if Coples can show that he can handle UT on passing AND running plays successfully then I would consider him.


No doubt it's completely different, but he's shown the ability to beat double teams both last year and this year. He's shown he can play the DT spot well and he's one of the best overall prospects in the draft defensively.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 09:34 AM

Not that I am a Clemson fan, but UNC has shown no better

Ryan Sims
Kentwan Balmer
Marvin Austin


Not exactly setting the woods on fire from Chapel Hill


Julius Peppers, Vonnie Holliday, Cam Thomas, E.J. Wilson, Robert Quinn were all defensive linemen from UNC that are currently starting in the NFL.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 09:40 AM

I'd love Coples.. he would be a tremendous upgrade over Hardy in run support.. and his pass rushing upside is great because he has very long arms and can shed blockers with ease. He is not as fast or quick as Hardy, but I think that's all Hardy has on Coples.