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#31 ed bell

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 06:00 PM

Incorrect, busted routes account for many interceptions as well as exemplary defensive skills and/or telegraphed throws.


You don't see what I did there



BTW, I fleshed out your point for you...you're welcome.

#32 TheRealDeal

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 06:01 PM

Thanks!

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 06:07 PM

So you'd take Luck?


If they were bees maybe. Since they're human and only a few months apart, no need.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 06:09 PM

It would really depend on the offense you were wanting to run. Brees can do things Newton can't and Newton can do things Brees can't. Ultimately Newton is the better choice because Newton is only 22 compared to Brees at 32.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 06:09 PM

Barkley?

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 06:13 PM

Barkley?


Nope. & you missed out to mention car keys & the 98 posse.

#37 ed bell

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 06:22 PM

in building a team for the future i'm going to go with the guy that's got the most future in the league, esp. when you have that dynamic skill set and ability to perform that newton has.

to me, the way the league is shaping up defenses are going to require your QB to be incredibly mobile in the next few years. you don't go with a guy that is on the wrong side of 30 in that situation.

brees is good right now and one of the best in the league, but he won't be that way for long. cam is the future.

Good point...I've heard plenty of talk about how pro football has become dependent on the passing game and has moved away from the running game/ball control model. Couple that with rules that help the receiver and QB and you have the game today.

Fact is, the game is constantly evolving and is coming around to deal with the pass-heavy strategy being utilized by successful teams. That's for the defensive minds to deal with. I see Carolina's utilization of Cam and our offense in general as breaking away from the status quo and moving the target that defenses are trying to deal with. This is cutting edge stuff and it's exciting to watch it develop.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 06:27 PM

For whatever reason for whatever season. Cam

Cam is a quick fix. He brings instant change and immediate swag. Brees got run off by SD and Miami when he became a free agent and didn't want him.

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San Diego Chargers
2001 NFL Draft

Brees' college success led to projections that he would be a mid-to-late first round draft pick in the 2001 NFL Draft, but he slipped due to concerns about his relatively short stature for a professional quarterback (6'0"), a perceived lack of arm strength, and a sense that he had succeeded in college in a system designed for him. Ultimately, Brees was the second quarterback selected in the 2001 draft, chosen by the San Diego Chargers as the first pick of the second round.[8]

San Diego originally had the first pick in that draft, but traded it to Atlanta (which used it to draft Michael Vick) in return for the fifth pick of the first round, with which San Diego drafted LaDainian Tomlinson.[8]

Early career
Brees played in his first professional game on November 4, 2001 against the Kansas City Chiefs. He won the starting job over Doug Flutie during training camp before the start of the 2002 season. Brees started all 16 games for the Chargers during the 2002 season, leading the team to an 8-8 record. After a disappointing start to the 2003 season he was replaced by Flutie.

Brees' career with the Chargers was put in jeopardy after San Diego acquired NC State's Philip Rivers. After the trade, it was almost certain Brees' days as the Chargers' starting QB were over

#39 Panthers128

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 06:30 PM

Brees could win a Super Bowl so I'd take him. Newton is good but honestly the Panthers only beat poor teams this year (even the Texans lost to the worst team in the league after facing the Panthers).

Also Newton has blown many leads and has yet to show he can win competitive close games (playoffs, meaningful games to get into the playoffs). Not say he can't do these things, but I haven't seen him do it yet. If Kasay was still our FG kicker and some linebackers were healthy, we might have these answers by now.

Newton is an unknown and if I'm building a team I'm taking the sure thing in Brees.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 06:37 PM

If you had to choose a QB right now to build a team around, would you choose Drew Brees or Cam Newton provided they are the only two candidates available.



Cam

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 07:40 PM

The better way to ask the question is who would you take for the rest of their career. That would clear it all up. One thing about cam is that superbowl or not, cam is exciting to watch. It's kinda like watching a great movie that you cant turn away from because you have to see what is gonna come next (the dark knight for me). Oh, and as far as DB's ints go, its not because he isnt accurate. It's because he will try to throw a ball through a keyhole. It goes exactly where he wants it to go. He just tries to throw it places he shouldnt.

Edited by woco, 28 December 2011 - 07:53 PM.


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Posted 28 December 2011 - 07:52 PM

The answer is totally dependant on the scenario. If we are talking about the next 5 years only without any thought to the years after its gotta be Brees. I love cam as much as anyone but brees over the next 5 is almost a sure playoffs 5 times. Even as he declines he just goes from elite to an above average QB.

As soon as you start considering anything longer its Cam. With Breez over 5 you probably make more playoffs better SB run but then its over. With Cam, playoffs SB are still possible but after 5 years hes just settling in

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 07:53 PM

if you are building a franchise, Cam.

if you have to build a roster to go win a game tommorrow, Brees.


This.

#44 ed bell

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:03 PM

The answer is totally dependant on the scenario. If we are talking about the next 5 years only without any thought to the years after its gotta be Brees. I love cam as much as anyone but brees over the next 5 is almost a sure playoffs 5 times. Even as he declines he just goes from elite to an above average QB.

As soon as you start considering anything longer its Cam. With Breez over 5 you probably make more playoffs better SB run but then its over. With Cam, playoffs SB are still possible but after 5 years hes just settling in


I'm not sold on the idea that Brees will retain his ability to carry the team through the next 5 years. I say carry, because he has been the key to success for them. Without his production and leadership, they don't have much to fall back on....I can't even name their back-up...I think their playoff performance will say a lot about the entire team this year, last year was a poor showing....we'll see.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:19 PM

No one knows if Cam could decline the next two years, it happened to Freeman, who many pre draft compared Cam to.

At their current levels, Cam is nowhere close to Breesus.


I wouldnt say all that, we have seen Cam make "Breesus" type throws this year and who knows how much better he will be after he goes through the off season. Also, your forgetting about Cams ability to run too, at the end of the day there are somethings Cam can do that Brees cant that will make him even more elite. Brees didnt even start playing at this level until NO superbowl run anyway. Cam is already shown flashes next to Brees in his rookie season.


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