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How bad does the Greg Olsen trade look?

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I remember when I saw the Bears traded Olsen to us. At first I worried if he gave up a 1st or a 2nd rounder, but when I saw it was a 3rd, I was amazed. I'm a huge Miami fan on the side and was hoping we'd grab both Olsen and Beason during the draft that year. The trade felt like we pulled one over on the Bears and indeed we did.

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Meh, all Belichick does is trade players for picks, then trade those picks for more picks and never does anything with them.

How many rings does he have?

How many rings does Hurney, AJ Smith, etc have.

I think he does a lot more with picks....sadly, as I hate NE.

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We got 'em back for that stupid Chris Harris for Jamar Williams trade.

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It was a fuging great trade, as shock gets older look for Olsen to improve drastically

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I would say however in addition to his stats his mere presence also helped other receivers get open

I'm curious how much he helped Shockey in particular.. when you have a TE that can stretch the field that leaves very little resources for a solid pass catching vet in key situations..

Obviously, Smitty magnifies that..

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Olsen is going to be one of our favorite Panthers ever. What makes him such a huge gem however is not only his fantastic skill set, his age, or his attitude. It's Chud and Shockey. Chud's history with Olsen is ideal and having another stud TE in Shockey who Chud also coached at the U (to all-American status no less) to me sets the perfect scenario. A cohesive partnership of people speaking the same language with a built-in mentor who has the killer instinct Olsen may lack is nothing short of perfection. I cannot think of another situation quite this unique in the league.

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I'm curious how much he helped Shockey in particular.. when you have a TE that can stretch the field that leaves very little resources for a solid pass catching vet in key situations..

Obviously, Smitty magnifies that..

when you have the TEs we do you can put 4 good receivers on the field without having to go to a spread formation, and given Cam's athleticism (he's not a statue) extra blockers aren't really a requirement in most cases unless the line is really playing piss poor. It's honestly becoming just another dimension of the passing game in recent years. The Patriots have a nasty 2 TE set that was like over twice as productive as ours. Miami's currently trying to develop one with Fasano and Charles Clay. The Redskins have Fred Davis and Chris Cooley.

There are advantages to this set over using spread formation. For one, you're not conveying to the defense as easily whether you're having 4 guys run routes or if they're just blocking for the running back. 2nd, if you have 2 good receiving TEs that are better than your 3rd and 4th receivers. And of course you have the mismatches against secondaries that TEs can bring.

Olsen seemed to vanish in the 2nd half of the season and Shockey took a slightly bigger command of the offense later on. Now i'm not sure if it was mainly because he got hurt or defenses started accounting for him (i'm sure both played a part), but I remember making this thread where Tennessee's defense basically took Olsen out of the game and Naanee caught almost everything that was thrown to him which was a lot, but he didn't convert any of those into big plays, like LaFell could do if he keeps progressing this offseason and gets a better grasp of the playbook. It looks like Olsen was attracting a lot more coverage at that point.

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olsen was expected to post massive numbers and become a team star, but that was back before we knew what we had in cam. nobody expected steve smith to break a thousand yards, and lafell seemed shaky based on training camp reports, and everyone was worried shockey was going to suck/be a cancer.

given the array of weaponry on the offense - including the NFL's best triple-threat running game - olsen's posting of 45 receptions for 540 yards, 5 touchdowns, and a 12.0 APC is pretty damn impressive.

as others have mentioned the versatility of tight ends like olsen forces teams to account for them (unheard of in the king/rosario era) which significantly opens things up for wide receivers. defensive coordinators know what olsen is capable of and they do gameplan for him. he slowed down later in the season for the same reason steve smith did: teams started covering him.

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I expected more out of both our TE'S.

Together, they weren't as good as walls.

Here is to hoping olsen is better next season.

Still well worth the 3rd round pick.

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