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War on Christmas continues

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While I don't like the idea of a small group of people stopping something for a large group of people, I despise the idea of a large group of people feeling they should have unquestioned tyrannical say on how things are done.

That's mob mentality at it's finest.

I like what the Brits did in their school: compromised.

If what the principal said is true that moving it to Jan. was the plan all along then I can see that point. But sending out a letter saying it was cancelled with no other information given, then sending out an explanation with detailed plans after the uproar does not bode well for his credability.

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i like what the brits did in their school: Compromised.

socialism!!!1!!!

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Would you shut down or censor an art exhibit if some folks found it offensive?

Giving in to the tyranny of the offended cuts both ways.

Would you please point out anything in the paragraph that you quoted that would leave you to believe I would?

Plus a situation where the school's putting on a Christmas show where the children will be put in a difficult situation if they don't or can't participate is completely different than having an exhibit in an art museum where people can very easily not go. So that is a poor analogy.

Now, if you had a situation for example where there was an exhibit and a school was going to take their students to see it, I wouldn't have a problem with them working something out if a good minority of the parents didn't approve of it.

Regardless, Christmas in America has become a materialistic Godless abomination anyway. I don't see why anyone would want to protect it.

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If what the principal said is true that moving it to Jan. was the plan all along then I can see that point. But sending out a letter saying it was cancelled with no other information given, then sending out an explanation with detailed plans after the uproar does not bode well for his credability.

You're right. Must have been the vocal minority that complained about canceling that changed his mind.

Damn those minorities.

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Would you please point out anything in the paragraph that you quoted that would leave you to believe I would?

Plus a situation where the school's putting on a Christmas show where the children will be put in a difficult situation if they don't or can't participate is completely different than having an exhibit in an art museum where people can very easily not go. So that is a poor analogy.

Now, if you had a situation for example where there was an exhibit and a school was going to take their students to see it, I wouldn't have a problem with them working something out if a good minority of the parents didn't approve of it.

Regardless, Christmas in America has become a materialistic Godless abomination anyway. I don't see why anyone would want to protect it.

That's a cop out answer :frown2:

People claiming "offense" are running roughshod over everyone else these days. It's crap and you know it.

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That's a cop out answer :frown2:

People claiming "offense" are running roughshod over everyone else these days. It's crap and you know it.

You gave me a strawman argument. I gave you a realistic situation and answer.

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actually, it seems far better this year than a few years back... I have seen very few "happy holidays" and "season's greetings"... even the department stores have Merry Christmas in their commercials..

I can live with political correctness... but when it turns into censorship, well, that's where I draw the line.

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It's funny that the same people who think that even the tiniest thing religious that's connected to the govt (like a Christmas display or 10 Commandments plaque) is a slippery slope to a state-sponsored religion, are the same ones who like to convince me that "common sense" gun controls aren't a slippery slope to repeal of the 2nd amendment.

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Well it's pretty obvious which side is allergic to open dialogue and compromise in this thread.

But hey, if God tells you you're right why should you have to listen?

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It still seems very simple to me.

Federal/State/Local Governments don't and shouldn't need to display ANY symbols of any religious holiday. Christmas has become some kind of weird quasi-religious holiday, but it is still safe to say that it has Christian underpinings, so it qualifies as religious for most people.

Private companies can do what they want, including dealing with any criticism/boycotts/stupidity.

Private citizens can display what they want on their property.

When the public concern intersects with private celebrations (an example, a public school taking a field trip to some kind of Christmas play/celebration) parents should be given the opportunity to opt out.

If a school wants to decorate festively, why not make it an opportunity for education?

This is Christmas, the origins (hehehehe), and what it is now. This is Hanukkah. This is Diwali. This is Eid. This is Kwanzaa. This is Tet.

Shocking concept, learning at a school.

Is this so difficult?

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When the public concern intersects with private celebrations (an example, a public school taking a field trip to some kind of Christmas play/celebration) parents should be given the opportunity to opt out.

If a school wants to decorate festively, why not make it an opportunity for education?

This is Christmas, the origins (hehehehe), and what it is now. This is Hanukkah. This is Diwali. This is Eid. This is Kwanzaa. This is Tet.

Shocking concept, learning at a school.

Is this so difficult?

That's actually the approach I wish schools would take to religious and/or sex education issues in general, rather than pretending those things don't exist or saying "we can't talk about them at all".

Similar take: There's probably nobody I respect more than parents who are trying to raise their kids right. It's a tough thing to do in today's world.

On the flipside, the ones that annoy the daylights out of me are the ones who use their kids as leverage to push their own issues (Michael Newdow is probably the biggest example of this particular kind of douchebag).

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