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#1 Wanderlai

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 12:53 PM

Since the Bobcats have been able to draft.

2011- Irving #1
2010- Wall #1, Cousins #5
2009- Griffin #1, Harden #3, Evans #4, Rubio #5, Curry #7
2008- Rose #1, Westbrook #4, Love #5, Lopez #10
2007- Durant #2, Noah #9
2006- Aldridge #2, Roy #6, Gay #8
2005- Deron #3, CP3 #4
2004- Howard #1, Deng #7, Iguodala #9

#2 RedMage138

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 01:05 PM

There a reason you stopped at 08?

2008 - Rose #1, Westbrook #4, Kevin Love #5, Brook Lopez #10
2007 - Durant #2, Horford #3, Noah #9
2006 - Aldridge #2, Roy #6, Gay #8
2005 - Bogut #1, Williams #3, Paul #4, Bynum #10
2004 - Howard #1, Harris #5, Deng #7, Iguodala #9

I'd also throw in Brandon Jennings for your 2009 group and Favors, Monroe and George into your 2010 group.

The jury is still out on everyone from 2011 but there are definitely talented guys there.

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 01:24 PM

Lopez is very good??? :blink:

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 01:30 PM

Averages about 18 points, 8 rebounds, and 2 blocks per game over his career and has a PER around 20. Yes, that's very good.

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 02:00 PM

He averaged less than four boards per game this season though. For a seven footer that's pathetic.....

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 02:22 PM

I'd take Lopez any day.

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 05:14 PM

I'd take Lopez any day.


Even over DJ like Brown did. Lol

So 8 drafts the Cats were in. Not one star or marketable player to show for it.

2005- refused to trade 5 and 13 for CP3
2006- went with Ammo over Roy or Gay
2007- Wright traded for Richardson. Passed on Noah
2008- DJ over Lopez
2010- no draft picks

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 07:57 PM

yup. I swear I was thinking the same thing the other day about this topic also. That only if we had chose the right players, we wouldn't be in this situation.

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 08:38 PM

Here's my thought:

-Ofcourse in 2004, we would stil take Emeka Okafor.
-2005 needing a PG, and not trading up for CP3, we'd still take Raymond Felton

(04'-05' having our big man and a PG)

(But now, this is where MJ should've done his hw and never fug up)


-In 2006, instead of listening to stupid Bob Johnson, he shouldve listen to Barkley and take Brandon Roy (Franchise Player)
-2007, what the Fug with the Brandan Wright pick? Take Joakim Noah!
-2008, why did we pass up on two big men in Lopez and Hibbert? but lets say that we took Brook Lopez just bc he came in as a higher prospect than Hibbert.
-2009, never knew why we passed up on Holiday for Henderson. Many mocks had us taking Holiday and I wanted Holiday. I love Duke too and every Carolina teams, but I'm not a big believer in Henderson. Say what yall want. I dont care. I dont like Henderson as much as many of you guys. Pick shouldve been Jrue Holiday.

(2009, we traded Emeka for Chandler)
(2010, we let Felton walked as a free agent, traded Tyson Chandler, and as the same time had no draft picks)


Now the 2011 lineup would've looked like this:
PG: Jrue Holiday
SG: Brandon Roy (saying he didnt retire)
SF: Klay Thompson or Kawhai Leonard
(We would never made a trade up for Biyombo at 7th and at 9th, we wouldve took Thompson or Leonard bc the trade of Wallace to Portland left a hole a the SF position.)
PF: Joakim Noah (a center but could play PF)
C : Brook Lopez

Yes it made be what some of yall may call "hindsight 20/20". And maybe if we had these guys on the roster, we wouldnt even be picking at the spot we were (lottery picks). But sometimes, we as fans has a better vision in seeing or guessing who will be a star in the making before some of these professional coaches and GMs do. Yah, yall can say its just lucky guessing and dont be stupid, or our jobs is not on the line like these guys when picking a player out of the draft, but we all as fans, and all yall knows it too, that we rather take the BPA. And these BPA that many teams keep passing up on, do become stars in the league.


Love it or hate it, suck it up. Just something I thought.

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 08:53 PM

Since the Bobcats have been able to draft.

2011- Irving #1
2010- Wall #1, Cousins #5
2009- Griffin #1, Harden #3, Evans #4, Rubio #5, Curry #7
2008- Rose #1, Westbrook #4, Love #5, Lopez #10
2007- Durant #2, Noah #9
2006- Aldridge #2, Roy #6, Gay #8
2005- Deron #3, CP3 #4
2004- Howard #1, Deng #7, Iguodala #9


Would've been much more informative if you listed all of the NOBODIES who were in the Top 10s. There are a lot more of those.

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 09:40 PM

Would've been much more informative if you listed all of the NOBODIES who were in the Top 10s. There are a lot more of those.


That's a lot of typing on a touchpad to do it that way. Just trying to show a few points.

1. Big time free agents will not sign here so its the draft or bust for a franchise player.
2. If you get the #1 pick there's about a 63% chance you get an impact player. After that its luck.
3. Other than the #1 pick, not to many stars out of 10 players taken each year.
4. 80 players drafted in the top 10 spots, 22 players broke out and are very good to excellent. 28% chance for a star player.
5. The #1 pick spot. 5/8 with 3 players disappointing.

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 09:47 PM

Now the 2011 lineup would've looked like this:
PG: Jrue Holiday
SG: Brandon Roy (saying he didnt retire)
SF: Klay Thompson or Kawhai Leonard
(We would never made a trade up for Biyombo at 7th and at 9th, we wouldve took Thompson or Leonard bc the trade of Wallace to Portland left a hole a the SF position.)
PF: Joakim Noah (a center but could play PF)
C : Brook Lopez

Yes it made be what some of yall may call "hindsight 20/20". And maybe if we had these guys on the roster, we wouldnt even be picking at the spot we were (lottery picks). But sometimes, we as fans has a better vision in seeing or guessing who will be a star in the making before some of these professional coaches and GMs do. Yah, yall can say its just lucky guessing and dont be stupid, or our jobs is not on the line like these guys when picking a player out of the draft, but we all as fans, and all yall knows it too, that we rather take the BPA. And these BPA that many teams keep passing up on, do become stars in the league.


Love it or hate it, suck it up. Just something I thought.


To be honest, thats not a very good lineup, especially considering Brandon Roy's lack of knees. Jrue Holiday isnt very good, Brook Lopez is a seriously flawed player, and while Noah would be nice he is better as a complementary player anyway. Plus we didnt really have a draft pick that year (traded for Jason Richardson)

The major draft miss was clearly 2006 when we had the #3 (and maybe 2005 if that reported trade was on the table), all the rest arent a big deal to me. Its time to move on

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 09:49 PM

That's a lot of typing on a touchpad to do it that way. Just trying to show a few points.

1. Big time free agents will not sign here so its the draft or bust for a franchise player.
2. If you get the #1 pick there's about a 63% chance you get an impact player. After that its luck.
3. Other than the #1 pick, not to many stars out of 10 players taken each year.
4. 80 players drafted in the top 10 spots, 22 players broke out and are very good to excellent. 28% chance for a star player.
5. The #1 pick spot. 5/8 with 3 players disappointing.


I would add that while clearly worse than the #1, top 5 picks did better than 6-10

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 09:52 PM

To be honest, thats not a very good lineup, especially considering Brandon Roy's lack of knees. Jrue Holiday isnt very good, Brook Lopez is a seriously flawed player, and while Noah would be nice he is better as a complementary player anyway. Plus we didnt really have a draft pick that year (traded for Jason Richardson)

The major draft miss was clearly 2006 when we had the #3 (and maybe 2005 if that reported trade was on the table), all the rest arent a big deal to me. Its time to move on


Yes its the past . I'm not living in the past. This is a topic so I'm just giving my own thoughts. Thinking if we had hit the previous draft picks, how good we could be.

But funny how you say that would not have been a good lineup. Funny how people like you always have something to say like you know everything. Even a lineup made out of no where that could be an all star lineup and you still call it no good. So what up want? You want what we had last year or this year? Good luck then.

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 09:55 PM

Yes its the past . I'm not living in the past. This is a topic so I'm just giving my own thoughts. Thinking if we had hit the previous draft picks, how good we could be.

But funny how you say that would not have been a good lineup. Funny how people like you always have something to say like you know everything. Even a lineup made out of no where that could be an all star lineup and you still call it no good. So what up want? What we had last year? Good luck.


So because I think a team led by Jrue Holiday, Brook Lopez, and Joakim Noah would be terrible, somehow I would rather have the worst team in NBA history?

Get the sand out of your vagina

I'm just tired of people saying "Oh the bobcats would be better if they drafted the best player possible every single year"

Yeah no sh!t sherlock


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