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#91 Montie_0123

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 06:18 PM

I don't see Stew going anywhere when the time is right something will get done. And beside I have a feeling D-Will is going to restructure his contract to keep Stew here since he's gotten the guaranteed money aka signing bonus!

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 06:20 PM

Like I said, they both could've gotten more money elsewhere... you can spin it however you want. If its not a "hometown" discount, then its just a discount....what a big difference.

Tolbert could of gotten more....

It isn't spin....the meaning of a hometown discount means giving your CURRENT team a break not going home.

How could Smitty of gotten more? Did you miss the 2010 season? Probably could of traded him for a 3rd rounder and another team gotten a steal......

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 06:30 PM

Tolbert could of gotten more....

It isn't spin....the meaning of a hometown discount means giving your CURRENT team a break not going home.

How could Smitty of gotten more? Did you miss the 2010 season? Probably could of traded him for a 3rd rounder and another team gotten a steal......



Yeah, I seen the 2010 season. I also seen the 2011 season... you know,his last contract year. If he wanted more money, he could've left in FA and he would've gotten it.

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 06:30 PM

I won't speculate about it now, but I do believe that Stewart wants to be here and I believe that the FO wants him here. I hope that all sides can work it out to the benefit of the team and hopefully that benefit is both Stew and D Will remains in the backfield.

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 06:30 PM

You aren't buying it is a passing league and rosters are being built to follow?

Cant have it all. Need a great D to go with Cam.

Cam+ half Double Trouble + Tolbert = easily the potential for the best ground attack in the NFL. What team with THAT is looking to spend dollars an another elite RB with holes all over the roster

no. i know it's happening. i've talked a lot about it in here and bitched about the coaching staff we had that was totally oblivious to it and had dug their heels in the ground totally resistant to change.

i think we need to be looking beyond current trends and i think that is what this team is doing with the cast of players they have. i don't think the key to being the best is trying to copy what everyone else is doing. it's taking what they do and spinning it to something else or doing something different that others will want to copy.

we can have a passing attack that is as good as anyone's with the cast that we have and imo, we do have it. i don't see why we can't keep it. i think it's feasible cap-wise and i don't think that something that will interfere with the progression and improvement in all areas of the game, including defense. i don't think we are all that far away from having a top 10 defense and that is without much more added to the roster than what is already here. i don't think that whatever additions are needed will be hurt by what we do or don't do with williams and stewart.

Cam+ half Double Trouble + Tolbert = easily the potential for the best ground attack in the NFL.

but cam + double trouble + tobert = easily the best ground attack in the NFL. i see no reason to change that grouping if the team can continue to grow and improve without breaking that up. i certainly don't see that being something that holds us back...not even on defense.

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 07:16 PM

I don't see Stew going anywhere when the time is right something will get done. And beside I have a feeling D-Will is going to restructure his contract to keep Stew here since he's gotten the guaranteed money aka signing bonus!


All restructuring does is push some of his salary to later years by converting it to a signing bonus and paying it up front. That just increases the amount of the signing bonus money we owe him each year. It can help for a specific year but won't do anything if the cap stays at the current amount for the next several years.

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 07:24 PM

If we wanted to get rid of him we would have traded him by now. Obviously we plan to keep him and have figured out how we are going to sign him. At this point we could simply use the 6 million in cap space we currently have by pushing it to next year.

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 07:34 PM

no way that an organization that prides itself on grooming its own talent, lets go of arguably one of its top five players (and very young at that too)

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 09:13 PM

Very unlikely he will be here next year.

Unless Tolbert turns out to be a fumblepotamus or Dwill drops off a cliff, Stew is pretty much gone.


Not true..he will be here..who wouldnt want to play with cam

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 09:15 PM

30 year old men are slower than 26 year old men. It's just reality. It doesn't matter if you ride bikes, walk around a mall, or play football. Age affects us all and it doesn't care how many touches you get.

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 11:24 PM

30 year old men are slower than 26 year old men. It's just reality. It doesn't matter if you ride bikes, walk around a mall, or play football. Age affects us all and it doesn't care how many touches you get.


It is also reality that there is more to being an effective RB than just being fast.

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 11:39 PM

not buying that because no one else is doing it, we shouldn't and that isn't some stuck in the past foxball mentality either that is resistant to change.

i see what the panthers are doing and how it can be better than anyone else. i don't see them taking the team and trying to be the pats or the Saints** with a QB that can run. i see them being a team that will beat you on the ground or in the air and that will make you choose your poison and i see that happening with a different cast of players than what is the norm.

screw this passing league crap or any one dimensional brand of football. do it all and cram it all down their throats. break the rules. forget following trends and start your own, do your own thing.

we should work with what we have and build around it and make this team better than anyones. we have a better group of ball runners than any other team in the league. we have a QB with one of the best arms in the league. we have a young up and coming group of WRs that should provide our QB with plenty of solid options that defenses will have to choose between trying to shut them down or try and stop the run game that is always possible. 34. 28, and tolbert provide this team and cam with a ton of options that can wear out defenses and get this team down the field and into the endzone.

i just see no reason that we should put an end to that if we can keep all of these guys and still keep growing as a team and win more games.

amen!

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 11:51 PM

Steve Smith didnt give us a hometown discount. Tolbert wasn't a Panther last year.....him moving his family back home isn't a "hometown discount"....which means giving your current team a break to stay bc of your past.

I remember when smith signed his first none rookie contract, signing for $10 million less than other top recievers were getting. this was when steve waz entering his prime.

you can say what ya want Bout his age, that doesn't change the fact he is a top five receiver. want to pull up the non-rookie contracts of the other top receivers in the league...or even the top 10?

Steve Smith's contract, is still on the affordable side for a receiver of his ability.
You couldn't even replace him with anothr top receiver for the same amount of Smith's current contract.

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 11:53 PM

this is my future reaction when we spend something north of 30 million to extend him



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Posted 13 July 2012 - 07:28 AM

Yeah, I seen the 2010 season. I also seen the 2011 season... you know,his last contract year. If he wanted more money, he could've left in FA and he would've gotten it.


Well, again....you claimed he could of gotten more. Nothing supports that. After 2010 is when he debated leaving....Carolina even attempted to honor his request. If he was a hot commodity then he wouldn't be a Panther today.

They have taken good care of Smith. He hasn't taken paycuts to stay


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