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Could Cam Run The Offense?

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I don't know of any other QB (Including Brady, Brees, Rodgers, etc) that could do what Peyton does. And no, Eli doesn't really do what Peyton does either.

But realistically, we don't need him to be able to do that. As long as he can run a two-minute drill, we're good.

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It makes me all giddy when I think about the Panthers in the Super Bowl once again, this time with a win.

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Sure, why not?

He was able to grasp a pretty complex offense as a rookie without the benefit of a full offseason, so he might be one of the few guys that has the mental capacity to run the whole offense.

The real question is whether or not the coaches would ever let him do that, I can see advantages and disadvantages... sometimes it's better to have a second pair of eyes in a booth way above the field calling the plays based on what he sees from his vantage point.

Also, Chud and Shula had Cam run the offense without the benefit of one of those wrist band cheat sheets. Cam's a smart dude.

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Unless the o-coordinator plans on sticking around for 10 years, I don't see it happening. Peyton was helped by the fact that his offensive system rarely changed during his time with the Colts. That helped him take it to another level.

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A La Peyton Manning?

Interesting concept, especially if down the road Cam learns the offensive system and realizes how he can exploit defenses. I know he isn't close to being able to do this, but who else could better understand what the defense is doing, especially while running a no huddle offense, than the QB?

Like I said, interesting concept to think about. I'm not sure if it will be feasible. Anyway, discuss.

I think there is too much volume to allow for this offense to be run on a purely audible system.

The Colts offense with Tom Moore was very simple with very few formations and very few shifts.

There base offense was almost alway singleback, 2 WR, 2 TE ACE formation.

Chudz offense is much more multiple, thus the volume is large.

There's the typical (San Diego) Coryel I-Form and Pro-Form stuff, there's shotgun spread, empty spread, there's shotgun zone-read, there speed option, counter option.

If they pared the offense down, then I'm sure eventually Cam could run it like Peyton.

But, imo that represents a marked philosophy shift from the offense that Chudz runs now.

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Cam is gonna be the Prototype for the future of Spread QB's. College and Pros. Size, speed, agility and passing ability. I think his brain will be pushed because from what we're hearing, the playbook is gonna be even deeper this year and i'm sure Cam won't be wearing a cheat sheet

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I've never seen any QB do what Peyton does. Cam is going to be one of the best very soon, but it will be via throws, runs, making people miss, and his enthusiasm.

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I think there is too much volume to allow for this offense to be run on a purely audible system.

The Colts offense with Tom Moore was very simple with very few formations and very few shifts.

There base offense was almost alway singleback, 2 WR, 2 TE ACE formation.

Chudz offense is much more multiple, thus the volume is large.

There's the typical (San Diego) Coryel I-Form and Pro-Form stuff, there's shotgun spread, empty spread, there's shotgun zone-read, there speed option, counter option.

If they pared the offense down, then I'm sure eventually Cam could run it like Peyton.

But, imo that represents a marked philosophy shift from the offense that Chudz runs now.

I will agree, Chud's offense, being quite complex, would require an extensive knowledge of the offense, and offensive, defensive schemes. While complex, Cam could theoretically pull it off, but coaches assistence would be just as effective. Nicely thought out.

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Ala Tom Brady or Brees**(i really fugn hate giving these guys any props). Tempo wise/audibles they are the best and I know he can play at that level. He is a student of the game and thats what it takes.

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I don't know of any other QB (Including Brady, Brees, Rodgers, etc) that could do what Peyton does. And no, Eli doesn't really do what Peyton does either.

But realistically, we don't need him to be able to do that. As long as he can run a two-minute drill, we're good.

Agree with Scot here.

Not many QB's in the history of the game did/does what Peyton has been able to do.

The problem is not picking a play and running with it, it's game management, clock management, recognizing what defensive players are coming onto the field, when to go for the big play vs. the chain mover.

Not only do I not think that Cam could do that now, or even for another 5 years, I don't want him doing it.

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Also, Chud and Shula had Cam run the offense without the benefit of one of those wrist band cheat sheets. Cam's a smart dude.

This came from Norv/Philip.

Norv didn't want him taking time to look up a play, or relying on the wrist band to not know the playbook inside and out.

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I've never seen any QB do what Peyton does.

Brady and Brees do it.

Rodgers does some, Matt Ryan does some.

There was a whole generation around just bedore the time of Unitas where most QBs were the playcallers.

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