Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

How big is the difference between KR and PR?

41 posts in this topic

Posted

kinda bugs me that we have a logjam at WR and we're debating keeping one because he

is our KR. We're not cutting our new PR, who is being counted in with the other WRs.

How big is the difference in the skill sets for PRs and KRs....seems like if you could return

punts you could return kicks....is there really such a difference that you keep another player?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

I've always thought returning KOs would be easier

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

I've always thought returning KOs would be easier

esp. since 75% end up as TBs thanks to the rule changes.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Id guess that KO guys have more top end speed????? I have no idea

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

vision.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

KR requires more straight-line speed and to take the lanes that are available. Once you get past the initial wave of a defenders you are typically in a footrace with the kicker and that's it.

PR requires more shiftiness and the ability to break some tackles because you have much less blocking ahead of you.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Punt return guy needs to be shiftier. A good punter can have a Punt returner completely surrounded by kick coverage when he catches the ball. A good average for a punt return is 10 yards. AE averaged about 5.8 yards. A good average for a kickoff return is 20 yards. AE averaged 11.7 yards.

All other Panther teammates averaged 22-25 yards per kick off return.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ycn-10690001

Armanti Edwards' Historically Bad 2011 Campaign

Through Week 14 Armanti Edwards has handled all 30 of Carolina's punt returns, generating the 5.8 average per return and longest (or shortest?) return of 17 yards. Edwards was drafted by the Panthers in 2010 due in large part for his potential to break big plays with his speed, but this has not happened through Edwards' first two seasons in the league.

In fact, the opposite is true this year - Armanti Edwards is on pace to having one of the statistically worst seasons as a punt returner in modern NFL history.

Since the NFL went to a 16-game schedule in 1978, a total of 472 punt returners have matched Edwards' year-to-date total of 30 punt returns. Of those 472 players, only 17 have generated fewer than Armanti Edwards' current average of 5.5 yards per return (click here for supporting data from Pro-Football-Reference.com).

The stats don't lie - the Panthers punt return game with Armanti Edwards has not only been bad in 2011, it has been historically bad, and it's time for Carolina to make a change.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Big... PR needs to be able to make one or two guys miss before the blocks kick in.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

There is a difference, they only appear to be the same from an observers point of view.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

All I know is when playing against a team led by John Fox, having a good punt returner is far more important than a good kick returner.

In all seriousness, I have never thought about that too much but what said fiery sounds about right.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

pretty good info, thanks.

I'm guessing that there have been returners who could do both, but they are rare.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

pretty good info, thanks.

I'm guessing that there have been returners who could do both, but they are rare.

Best ever was Mel Gray. Best player of today is Josh Cribbs.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites