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#37 nagai


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Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:43 PM

You know he will. He has looked the worst of all WRs, but I think Rivera has a hard time letting go of old Charger WRs. Tutu is big, but I am not a fan. I too hoep he gets cut.

I think his size has a lot to do with it. It's not just about finding the 6 best receivers, the staff see the X and Y receivers as separate positions. I don't think Murphy, Pilares, Edwards or Adams can play the Y slot. Gettis probably could, but he's hurt. Murphy may learn it eventually but Raiders fans say he's not good at making catches in traffic. Someone has to backup LaFell, so that leaves Tutu as the logical but painful option.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:55 PM

I don't know how to explain this other than to say that LaFell is not the competition for Gettis at this point. The competition for Gettis is Murphy, Armanti, and Pilares. LaFell is a different kind of option than the rest of those guys. He's a hands option good for short completions and things that don't show up as glaring in the box score. He may only have 3 or 4 catches for 20-40 yards, but the majority of those are chain movers. We can count on LaFell to catch every ball he has a reasonable chance of catching even if the YAC isn't there on them. Plus, his blocking is RIDICULOUS. If he gets his hands on a guy, he does it with the tenacity of Smith and has the frame to be even more effective. The guy loves blocking and relishes the physical nature of the position and the chance to give back on some of those presses the CB put on him.

Sure, a player like Murphy or Gettis may stretch the field and give us one big play a game which is something we need.... but we don't need it at the expense of LaFell being on the field in short yardage situations giving Cam an easy target to pick up short third downs or holding outside blocks. He's a clear 2nd WR based on what the priorities are in this offense, which is more than what can you do after the catch. We still have a roster full of WR that are working on simply making the catch... which is a highly underrated aspect of being a WR around here.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 09:11 PM

lafell was the starting receiver against the jets first team defense... playing against arguably the best secondary in the league he consistently got open against CB1 and CB2s and caught everything thrown his way.

not sure what you're looking for in a WR2 but if this isn't it go ahead and propose trades for larry fitzgerald or something

Lafell did not have a catch against Revis or Cromartie............

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 02:06 AM

Be true to yourself and admit that the myth of Gettis and the reality of Gettis are two totally different things.



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Posted 28 August 2012 - 03:00 AM

I was probably the biggest LaFell hater on the board before the 2010 season. He had a serious problem with dropping easy catches at LSU.

That being said the guy has become exactly what you want out of a #2 receiver. A take over the game guy is a #1 receiver. Yes a couple teams have those but not many. Also I dont know what some of you are watching but LaFell is a very capable run after the catch guy. He doesn't always go for it but very very few receivers do (including Moose btw). Stepping out of bounds before a big hit, especially after you picked up a first down is the norm. We have been spoiled in that regard by Smitty. LaFell has turned his biggest weakness (hands) into his strength and is a damn good blocker. Guy proved me wrong and I couldn't be happier about it.

Now as I said a couple days ago. Gettis had some serious flashes. I don't understand questioning his catching either. One dropped pass that he more than made up for. He progressed at a very high level his rookie year. Started off only catching with his body, by the middle of the year he was making great hand only catches on fourth downs and running scary good routes. I shouldn't have to remind you of his speed/size combo. which is almost freakish. He is the only guy on our roster with #1 potential not named Smith. Will he ever reach that potential no one knows. But it is the right of the fans to be hopeful IMO.

The slot seems to me to be where we are looking for our guy. Pilares, former running back and returner is perfect on paper.
Adams also fits the mold. Armanti would if he would stop jumping at shadows. However in our playbook you can't just think of a typical slot guy. I think this is where Murphy and Gettis fit for now. They seem to want a legit deep threat being covered by a nickle back on occasion. But thats just my guess.

cliff notes. LaFell is a good #2. Gettis has #1 potential. Slot is atypical. So I expect a committee.

Also having Gettis and Murphy could turn out to be a god send if anyone gets hurt.

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 09:32 AM

I don't get the hype for Gettis. He had 500 yards receiving and 3 TDs on one of the worst offenses this league has seen in a while. Then he gets hurt and has/will miss a full season and a good portion of another. Frankly, Lafell's stats were almost identical to Gettis' in 2010 and he is healthy.

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 09:38 AM

Well, Gettis is done

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 01:02 PM

I just feel like we are not at full strength on the offense without this guy. LaFell is decent, but he is not a true number 2.

I don't get the love-affair with Gettis. I hope the dude makes it back, and all of his fans are correct. I would love for him to return and be a force. But, thus far, I've seen nothing that would guarantee this happens.

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 01:53 PM

I didn't see anything spectacular. Did he make good plays? Yes. Did he make plays that said he should be a starter? No, not really. LaFell would definitely be a number three receiver on a lot of teams around the league.

You must have missed the one or two clutch catches every week near the end of each game. Not to mention the good catches throughout each game. He is legit, I don't understand the doubts people have.

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 02:02 PM

I am not sure we can really gauge the years LaFell and Gettis had with Clausen. I didn't think either was clearly better than each other. I personally liked Gettis better that year.

But all that matters is LaFell is on the field. LaFell might not be as explosive as Gettis (and that gap may have closed because of Gettis's nagging injuries) but he is better all around WR. He, like Murphy, likes to block when his number isn't called.

I am just worried this has more to do than just his hamstring. I don't know why you'd be on the PUP list just for a hamstring. He continues to say it has nothing to do with the ACL but I am sure it does.

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 02:22 PM

Most people don't see how much of a good thing this is. It allows him to fully recover from his hamstring and also allows another player to make the team while he recovers. I worry more about Hogan than Gettis.