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#46 I Mean He Was Found Guilty

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 08:03 AM

we've never seen anything out of armanti that was remotely similar to joe adams' return against houston.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 08:03 AM

Not singling you out, just that Adams is the new shiny toy and everyone is caught in that hype. I would love for him to become an awesome punt returner, but I'm just looking at it objectively and he is basically Armanti but comin from a bigger school and with out the position change. Just concerns me a bit.


But objectively he isn't basically Armanti.....he is a better return man and has more potential at returning as a rookie than Edwards does a 3rd year vet.

Recieving is probably a push unless you put them in screen type setting then Adams again has more potential.

They are looking to occupy the same role on the team....so again to keep Armanti you have to ask what does he give you over Adams? His ability to throw doesn't seem to be enough in my mind. The Armanti wildcat is a weak option and less of a problem for defensives than a standard Newton play

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 08:04 AM

I feel like I am talking to children.


Why are you pulling other PR's into the conversation ?

Why are you ignoring the horrible state of our Special Teams in doing so ?

Why can you not admit the Adams is a career PR guy who has had success in THE conference in football ?

Can you honestly say you would rather Armanti field punts that Adams ?

Do you think Armanti (after the several years to do anything) has more ability to make plays in the PR game ?

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 08:05 AM

Will you support Adams once Armanti is not a Panther or will you be joining Armanti in the CFL message boards? Serious question.


I've already stating my preference for Adams to be punt returner AND kick returner in the Pilares threads. I love his playmaking. Doesn't mean his bad hands won't be worrisome at points in the season.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 08:08 AM

Biggest problem- We gave up the 33rd pick in the draft for a useless player.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 08:09 AM

I've already stating my preference for Adams to be punt returner AND kick returner in the Pilares threads. I love his playmaking. Doesn't mean his bad hands won't be worrisome at points in the season.


Chud nor those who he developed his base scheme from have never shown to use heavy WR sets. Return aspect carries the most weight in this competition considering the guys ahead them on depth chart

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 08:12 AM

I've already stating my preference for Adams to be punt returner AND kick returner in the Pilares threads. I love his playmaking. Doesn't mean his bad hands won't be worrisome at points in the season.



The standard response whenever you bring up a bad play or weakness in a player here is something along the line of "so you think we should cut him?" You have to be all for one player or another and if you bring up that Adams has bad hands it automatically means you have an agenda for some other player.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 08:17 AM

As an Armanti fan I actually hold him to higher standards. If he isn't going to shine, I'd rather him be cut than wallow in mediocrity just so I can see him play every once in a while-- what's the point in that. Nothing will suck more than him making the team, being mediocre and then having him pummeled in the press and on the message boards. I'd rather have great players than "my boy" playing average. Of course, as we sometimes forget---- it ain't up to me and it will be what it is.......

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 08:18 AM

But objectively he isn't basically Armanti.....he is a better return man and has more potential at returning as a rookie than Edwards does a 3rd year vet.

Recieving is probably a push unless you put them in screen type setting then Adams again has more potential.

They are looking to occupy the same role on the team....so again to keep Armanti you have to ask what does he give you over Adams? His ability to throw doesn't seem to be enough in my mind. The Armanti wildcat is a weak option and less of a problem for defensives than a standard Newton play


Point taken. But not saying he is worse the. Armanti, just that they have looked the same outside of one punt return. People like to forget but Armanti had one or 2 decent punt returns his first year in the pre-season. I admit that Adams is shiftiness, but if that doesn't lead to more yards on the field then it's irrelevant. Hopefully it does however.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 08:25 AM

Adams looks great at returning punts in college, looks great in his first couple preseason games IN HIS FIRST SEASON, has a bad night last night....cut his ass.

Edwards doesn't return punts in college, looks pathetic his entire professional career....let's give this guy another chance. ?

Please, someone refresh my memory...how many career receptions does Edwards have?

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 08:27 AM

Adams looks great at returning punts in college, looks great in his first couple preseason games IN HIS FIRST SEASON, has a bad night last night....cut his ass.

Edwards doesn't return punts in college, looks pathetic his entire professional career....let's give this guy another chance. ?

Please, someone refresh my memory...how many career receptions does Edwards have?



Who said to cut him?

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 08:31 AM

Point taken. But not saying he is worse the. Armanti, just that they have looked the same outside of one punt return. People like to forget but Armanti had one or 2 decent punt returns his first year in the pre-season. I admit that Adams is shiftiness, but if that doesn't lead to more yards on the field then it's irrelevant. Hopefully it does however.


Adams has a grand total of 9 PRs this preseason...

34, 20, 18 were some of his returns.....what preseason did Armanti do that? Yardage wise, Adams has been better.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 08:35 AM

I think you guys meant to post this in the Armanti vs. Adams...... thread. This thread is really just focused on what is wrong with Armanti.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 08:37 AM

Who said to cut him?


CSX, I know you didn't say cut him, I would assume it is implied. If we keep Adams but let Edwards catch punts, what is Adams going to do? He sure as hell isn't going to be a Gunner on kickoffs. Why keep a guy if he has no role on this team?

We can't keep everybody. The dead weight has got to go.

Now again...how many career receptions does Edwards have?

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 08:49 AM

Punt Returns

2010 - Edwards preseason 7.5 per return avg
2012 - Edwards preseason 1.6 per return avg
2012 - Adams preseason 12.5 per return avg


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