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These refs have got to go

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It's not the first call they've fuged up by any stretch, but it's the first time a fuged up call has affected the outcome of a game. Regular refs and replacement refs alike fug up plenty of calls during the course of games. Teams have time and opportunity to adjust and compensate for it in most cases. In cases where they don't, that game would fall into the 2%.

That's why you haven't seen outcomes of games adjusted after the game is over. The SD-Broncos game a few years back, the infamous bad call by Hochuli. Everyone, including Hochuli, admitted it was the wrong call. But the Chargers had an opportunity to overcome it. It was an outrage, and a blatant bad call, but it wasn't reversed because it's part of the game. I'll say this. The call at the end of this Packers-Seahawks game wasn't any more egregious or ridiculous than the Tuck rule game, that SD-Denver game, calling back JStew's run against Jax last year, or 100 other calls I've seen. It was bad, but I've seen plenty others just as bad. Hell, awarding that team (I forget which at the moment) 4 time outs yesterday was at least as bad. But it didn't directly affect the outcome of the game because it didn't happen on a game deciding last play of the game.

This was pretty much my stance until taking a more objective point of view. It is very true that regular refs jack up calls and games on their own. But there are a few things in this situation that's a little different.

#1) The number of calls and bad ref games are becoming very noticable to me. Usually those badly ref games with the regular refs we can call them out by name and referee. Watching all the games the last 2 weeks there have been a lot of jacked up calls.... Arizona almost got the screw job at then end of week 1, The 49ers this week being given back a timeout and challenge before the two minute warning keepin them in the game when they had none, and there has been more.

#2) Confusion, The ref's at times has no idea what is going on and what should be going on. Just very lost. Even last night John Clayton who was right next to the refs was reporting just how lost about everything they were. Even with that call the side judege should not make that call, and there should have been a conference with the head ref to discuss what they saw before making the call... This is not the first time the refs had been confused.

#3) Lack of confidence. While this is very understandable, I have heard a lot of reputable players (Like Larry fitz), coaches, and others around the league stating how they are getting intimidated by players, coaches, and fans... I don't blame them when you have all these people yelling at you to get the call right, but the lack of confidence and control of the game is making things bad...

So you put all of this together... Not knowing and being confident on the rules, the lack of confidence and the confusion over the game just makes this a uglier situation than even I expected. I even had a rant on facebook about people being to hard on the NFL and the replacement refs, but after these last two weeks it is justified.

I don't know what the answer is though, as I do not believe the NFL should cave and give the ref's everything they want. I am not a knee jerk reactor. I almost feel as though we just need to accept a inferior product and deal with it until there can be a deal made.... short term sacrifice, long term benefit.

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BoyCot NFL 2012

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LOL @ boycott

Tell you what...owners/Goodell...meet them halfway. Remember...the union refs want a 401K AND pension plan for a part time position. Nuts. Give them some sort of pension...go for it, BUT all refs would have to be subjected to a 15 minute press conference after EVERY NFL game to speak to reporters on how the game was called.

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I know the refs are horrible, but just because the NFL is a money machine doesn't mean they should give in to outrageous demands by everyone that is associated with them.

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http://profootballta...e-been-flagged/

“Replay Official Howard Slavin stopped the game for an instant replay review. The aspects of the play that were reviewable included if the ball hit the ground and who had possession of the ball. In the end zone, a ruling of a simultaneous catch is reviewable. That is not the case in the field of play, only in the end zone.

so yes you can review simultaneous catch in the endzone only.

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I didn't say this last night, but in all reality, the right team won. The refs threw at least three bogus flags that extended the Packers final touchdown drive. (All three of them came on 3rd down) So that final call wasn't the only goof up by these refs. If you ask me, the right team won overall.

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I didn't say this last night, but in all reality, the right team won. The refs threw at least three bogus flags that extended the Packers final touchdown drive. (All three of them came on 3rd down) So that final call wasn't the only goof up by these refs. If you ask me, the right team won overall.

True. That PI call that should have been offensive PI was just awful.

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If were the Panthers at home, and Steve Smith had gone up and done the same thing, this entire board would be singing a completely different tune.

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I really don't care. Let the greedy bastads sit at home. These dudes already get paid VERY VERY well to officiate 16 games a year, more than most people make in 2 years. They want way too much just because they think they can get it. fug em and fug all unions for that matter.

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Why was last night's call such a big deal? Why are people calling it the straw that broke the camel's back?

Three hundred million dollars changed hands in Vegas on that call.

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