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#25 Icege

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 07:50 AM

How are people able to say, "Cam would've gotten it on 4th and 1!" and then when they unsuccessfully try for it the next week, the play call itself is bad and we suck?

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 08:04 AM

If Fox had our current secondary, would he have won 7 games ever ?

I'd say maybe, because of the excellent pass rush back then.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 08:59 AM

I'd say maybe, because of the excellent pass rush back then.


And the rulebook that allowed DBs to be more physical

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 04:47 PM



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Posted 11 October 2012 - 04:54 PM

And the rulebook that allowed DBs to be more physical


This and our secondary was actually worse back then.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 05:44 PM

I remember those days.......... I also remember Hurney going onto 1110 am every monday morning to talk to the fans..........
He still is doing that right? Right?.........

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:15 PM

See, our defense was very much the same in 2001 as it was in 2002 and 2003, which was my point. Fox took an awful team, and turned them around. Rivera has a talented team, and..we may be picking first this year in the draft..

Not true.

Fox simply added the right kind of offense in 2003....

The 2002 D and ST were also better than anything Rivera has. In 2003 Fox simply added the complimentary offense to a strong D and ST.

Carolina had very very good D in 2002. #2 ranked D despite a weak O.

Carolina wasn't awful in 2002. Offense was just fixed from 2002 to 2003

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 07:48 PM

In John Foxes first year, Rodney Peete was the starting QB, and we started 3-0. This coming off an awful 1-15 season, and Fox had the same players mind you. We ended up 7-9, winning 4 out of our last 5. In his season year, Fox went to CAREER BACKUP JAKE DELHOMME and started 5-0, and of course, ended up a John Kasey kick away from winning a Super Bowl.

Ron Rivera punted the ball on a 4th an 1 from the 45 with a 6'6 260 QB that would have won the game.


Based on Fox having Peyton Manning instead of Rodney Peete this year, they should be undefeated.