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#121 footballisasport

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 03:22 AM

Can you imagine if you folks spread out the criticism amongst the rest of your team the way you seem to love focusing your energy on Cam? This team would be 5 and 1 by now.

But some of you seem to not have much balls. You believe jumping on a media fill hate bangwagon and doing what everyone else is doing will fix this team's problem. How easy it has been to blame Cam for the problems of this team.

What....to afraid to call out the REAL CANCERS OF THIS TEAM?

#122 Who Said What?

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 09:13 AM

So we didn't fire Marty Hurney cause he drafted that overgrown kid...ok.


No we didn't fire Hurney because he drafted Cam. We fired Hurney because in his tenure we did not have back to back winning seasons. That includes, Jake, Jimmy, Matt, Vinny, St. Pierre, and a host of other busts. If you want to add Cam to that list after one year, then do it and get another team. Jerry is going to ride or die with Cam. He said it would be the last QB in his lifetime...OK

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:02 AM

Someone on this board with some real insight who isn't afraid to speak up.

From day one, I've gotten the impress that the Panther fans are in DEEP denial of their team. If we can only find the right coach. If we can only find the right QB. You want everyone to come in and change the culture of your team but guess what? The culture of your team is control by those who have been there longer. If their immaturity is strong and controling the mindset of this team will follow, and Cam cannot change that. Especially when he's always been hammered because you're afraid to call out the real team leaders. .

The undisciplined mindset of this team seem to be much stronger than someone like Cam to break and I believe many of you know it but you rather continue sitting indenial and hoping every new QB will come along and save this team.


I read a thread that is now questioning and comparing Cam's leadership to another QB that was beloved, what else is new. The question that doesn't get asked is, what was the culture of this team when that QB was here? Who were the leaders and vets before him? How long before he stepped into the role of a leader? All that could have contributed to him becoming the leader that he was.

I'm sure somewhere, Fox is laughing his ass off at this team and and fans because you still don't seem to get it. Blaming others will not solve the immature culture of this team if there is someone is controling the mindset of the team by his own behavior and I have a feeling I know who that person is.

In all honesty, there doesn't seem to be any real leaders. Just vets with titles and ego issues. There seem to be way to much selfishness and the most selfish of them is your receiver, Smitty. He seems to never take responsibility for his own actions on the field and only seem to like to using his role as a captian to chew out his QBs when they don't give him the ball. it seems you folks spoil him and he's untouchable.

There just seem to be a very unhealthy mindset on this team and it's not Cam. No matter how much the media want to scape-goat him with some of you joining in at every turn because you'r so denial of this team.

Look at the Bengals now. That team was on top of their game. Then some players came on and after awhile, projected their attitude unto the rest of the players that created a bad culture. Funny how the media called those receivers out and got rid of them. Now the team is doing much better. But the media for some ego-driven reason, hate Cam and is always singling him out instead of demanding more from the rest of this team, espcially the vets, like they do with the teams their more chosen QBs are on.

Demanding so much from Cam while ignoring the real issues of this team is not going to fix the problem. You must call out your real leaders and demand they get rid of the player or players who is creating a culture that is killing this team. I have a funny feeling why many of you won't call out the vets on this team.


Everyone wants to blame the media for an egotistical bias and that's simply not the case. Cam and only him put himself in position through his comments and that god awful jacket. He's not a leader. A leader doesn't sulk on the sidelines and put a towel over his head. The leader doesn't say to bring in a suggestion box.

We can all agree that Cam is more an athlete then Jake Delhomme ever was. But Delhomme was more a leader then Cam will ever be. Less then two years into his starting tenure this team is divided like it's never been. The QB IS the leader of the team and right now this team is reflecting his attitude.

#124 TheMaulClaw

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:04 AM

No we didn't fire Hurney because he drafted Cam. We fired Hurney because in his tenure we did not have back to back winning seasons. That includes, Jake, Jimmy, Matt, Vinny, St. Pierre, and a host of other busts. If you want to add Cam to that list after one year, then do it and get another team. Jerry is going to ride or die with Cam. He said it would be the last QB in his lifetime...OK



Jerry Richardson also said he would never have a different GM then Marty Hurney. Things change....girlfriends that say love you....leave. Jobs that you've worked for years change.

#125 Who Said What?

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:09 AM

Jerry Richardson also said he would never have a different GM then Marty Hurney. Things change....girlfriends that say love you....leave. Jobs that you've worked for years change.


This I cannot argue. Jerry is 76 though.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:14 AM

Footbalisasport those vets and the fans who dont want to hold them accountable are bout to be gone. This is about to be Cams team.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:15 AM

Cam and only him put himself in position through his comments and that god awful jacket. He's not a leader.


So now, you've got a problem with his sweater?

By the way, I'll bet you didn't see the thread about the QB's with the best PA completion % so far in 2012. Here's a hint, one of them is the guy that some claim can't run a pro offense.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:30 AM

So now, you've got a problem with his sweater?

By the way, I'll bet you didn't see the thread about the QB's with the best PA completion % so far in 2012. Here's a hint, one of them is the guy that some claim can't run a pro offense.


That's actually his problem. He doesn't check down. As a result he throws a lot of picks. Im pretty sure if you compiled the stat of qb with the most fumbles he be on top of that list as well. Also I wonder what his 3rd down completion percentage. Cherry picking a useless stat does nothing Marguide. I actually thought you were smarter then that.

#129 mcdougal

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:44 AM

That's actually his problem. He doesn't check down. As a result he throws a lot of picks. Im pretty sure if you compiled the stat of qb with the most fumbles he be on top of that list as well. Also I wonder what his 3rd down completion percentage. Cherry picking a useless stat does nothing Marguide. I actually thought you were smarter then that.


Cam throws a lot of picks? Compared to who?

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:45 AM

That's actually his problem. He doesn't check down. As a result he throws a lot of picks. Im pretty sure if you compiled the stat of qb with the most fumbles he be on top of that list as well. Also I wonder what his 3rd down completion percentage. Cherry picking a useless stat does nothing Marguide. I actually thought you were smarter then that.



And his completion percentage would be a lot higher if Murphy and Smith would catch his 3rd down balls.

Do you even watch the panthers?

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 04:11 PM

And his completion percentage would be a lot higher if Murphy and Smith would catch his 3rd down balls.

Do you even watch the panthers?


Every game. His 3rd down completion percentage would be higher if he would check the ball down instead of throwing the ball into coverage....or eating a sack...or fumbling. I bet his 4th down fumbling percentage is higher then his 3rd down completion percentage.

#132 Marguide

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 04:21 PM

That's actually his problem. He doesn't check down. As a result he throws a lot of picks. Im pretty sure if you compiled the stat of qb with the most fumbles he be on top of that list as well. Also I wonder what his 3rd down completion percentage. Cherry picking a useless stat does nothing Marguide. I actually thought you were smarter then that.


There's no hope for you. The point is, if he is a good play action passer, then the myth that he can't run a pro style offense is obvious bunk. Get it?

#133 LinvilleGorge

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 05:21 PM

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#134 FastNFurious

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 05:26 PM

He's the best player on the worst team in the league....congrats to him. How many game winning drives does he have? How many turnovers in the fourth qtr? Let's not bring in any competition for our vaunted 1-5 QB that has an attitude problem.

Gonna go ahead and say that the Browns are far worse off than Carolina....

#135 iamhubby1

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 06:14 PM

It is one thing to be frustrated with Cam's play so far this year. It is yet another to actually want to waste valuable resources on "Competition".

This team needs upgrades at multiple positions. Wasting resources needed to fill these holes on competition for a second year talent is just silly.

Think before you post. That way your arguement may not seem so lame.


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