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#85 google larry davis

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 05:11 AM

i literally grew up in a south african slum

hey let's all post things that can in no way be confirmed and are in no way relevant to whether or not rap music is to blame for the inordinate amount of black people living in poverty

ps: it's fuging hilarious that you just asked me in that other thread to go back to pointing out how dumb your posts are and then you instantly resort to "um my point is valid because i have interacted with some black people therefore SWEETHEART"

i mean let's take a look at this

you posted:

The redneck and American gangster subcultures have too much appeal to be dropped anytime soon. Especially when a shitload of music and other products are targeted solely at glorifying these cultures.


i posted:

the majority of rap consumers are white. rap music is marketed to white people.

see: escapism
stop: trying to talk about black culture


and you respond with:

I find it cute that someone as delusional and progressive as you thinks you're fit to comment on someone else's "street cred." But since you wanna go down this road, I'll bite. How many gang fights you seen, player? How many women have you seen get molested? Did police follow your school bus home much?


uh what? like i don't even know what this is supposed to be

anyway if the majority of rap consumers are pasty white suburbanites, why aren't we talking about the subculture of gang violence that binds the poor white man to poverty? even though like 26% of black people live in poverty, 9% of white people live in poverty, and white people buy more rap music than black people, truly it is rap music that is preventing progress within the black community because you see crime and poverty are actually just CULTURAL problems that they bring upon themselves and could not possibly have anything to do with systemic racism and classism

jesus fuging christ dude tell us all about your black friend some more please

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i love it when i can just quote this poo verbatim

#86 google larry davis

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 05:19 AM





oh no more music glorifying "these cultures" what ever will we do

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 10:46 AM

The only thing that surprises me.... people really buy music still?

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 01:53 PM

i literally grew up in a south african slum

hey let's all post things that can in no way be confirmed and are in no way relevant to whether or not rap music is to blame for the inordinate amount of black people living in poverty


Ah, so you're admitting you didn't actually grow up in a South African slum. Sorry, love, but your street cred seems to be coming up a little short. Better point out some more inequality to boost it back up.

ps: it's fuging hilarious that you just asked me in that other thread to go back to pointing out how dumb your posts are and then you instantly resort to "um my point is valid because i have interacted with some black people therefore SWEETHEART"


By all means, point out the idiocy, killer. It's cute when you try to form your arguments on logic.

anyway if the majority of rap consumers are pasty white suburbanites, why aren't we talking about the subculture of gang violence that binds the poor white man to poverty? even though like 26% of black people live in poverty, 9% of white people live in poverty, and white people buy more rap music than black people, truly it is rap music that is preventing progress within the black community because you see crime and poverty are actually just CULTURAL problems that they bring upon themselves and could not possibly have anything to do with systemic racism and classism


Damn, a strawman. I had hopes for this one, cantrell. Maybe next time.

Although I do enjoy when you bring out your "black people are pathetic, helpless victims" card. It's when I know I'm on the right side of the argument.

jesus fuging christ dude tell us all about your black friend some more please

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I love when you post 3 or 4 things in a row. If you can't hit 'em the first time, keep firing and hope to get lucky, right?

Anyway, good save with the meme, sweetie. Brought that street cred right back up.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 04:27 PM

The biggest thing that ticks me about this is when I see people selling their food stamps for .50 on the dollar. If you need food stamps, then you would expect them to be used for food - not sold for 1/2 price so you can buy beer and cigs.

There is a Piggly Wiggly here in town that you can sit in the parking lot and watch this happen every month like clock work.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 03:41 AM

Ah, so you're admitting you didn't actually grow up in a South African slum. Sorry, love, but your street cred seems to be coming up a little short. Better point out some more inequality to boost it back up.


oh wow you actually comprehended what you read good on you

By all means, point out the idiocy, killer. It's cute when you try to form your arguments on logic.


"i know a black person therefore"

there's no logic to that

just like there was no logic in suggesting that i was calling your "street cred" into question when i told you to stop talking about black culture, and other things that you can't really comprehend. it has nothing to do with that time you spoke to a black guy and everything to do with you unironically blaming rap music for the existence of racial inequality

i mean jesus fuging christ dude you blamed rap music and expect to be taken seriously? lol. what about the "violent culture" promoted within music made for and consumed by white people? why do you seem to think that black people are disproportionately affected by music? also did video games and marilyn manson cause columbine? because that sure seems to follow the same logic

Damn, a strawman. I had hopes for this one, cantrell. Maybe next time.

Although I do enjoy when you bring out your "black people are pathetic, helpless victims" card. It's when I know I'm on the right side of the argument.


actually it sure looks like you're on the wrong side when you don't even attempt to respond beyond your standard masturbatory posts. hey it's ok, when i was a teenager i had plenty of dumb opinions too but i guess that damned "progressive" part of me pushed me toward greater understanding rather than just thinking "hey this guy calls my entire belief system into question every time he acknowledges my existence, therefore he is clearly wrong because i know a black person SWEETHEART"

I love when you post 3 or 4 things in a row. If you can't hit 'em the first time, keep firing and hope to get lucky, right?

Anyway, good save with the meme, sweetie. Brought that street cred right back up.


oh look i've reached the end of your post and you haven't even attempted to make any sort of argument. i will take this as a white flag. let me know if you want to talk more about real, verifiable things and less about racist anecdotes like "i've seen gang fights and women being molested so trust me, i KNOW black culture"

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 06:01 AM

The biggest thing that ticks me about this is when I see people selling their food stamps for .50 on the dollar. If you need food stamps, then you would expect them to be used for food - not sold for 1/2 price so you can buy beer and cigs.

There is a Piggly Wiggly here in town that you can sit in the parking lot and watch this happen every month like clock work.


Catch them on hidden camera and post on Youtube.

Nothing wrong with that. Sometimes authorities need embarrassing...as do people to begin to do things right.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 06:15 AM

anyway here's some rappers performing for a crowd whiter than a fuging klan rally, rapping about things like cutting class, smoking pot, cannibalism, punching pregnant women, and killing their moms



man white culture is fuging awful right? i'm sure that disparity in poverty, sentencing, incarceration, and mortality rates will close any day now

oh here's another



that one is literally titled "kill people burn poo fug school" and it seems like all of those precious little (white) snowflakes know every single word. seriously what the fug is up with white culture goddamn i'm sure all of those thugs went out and burned down hundreds of schools upon hearing this song because rap music is basically wizardry and let's face it: it's cool to be a gangster. it's not cool to be well-read.

and btw my comments on the white culture of violence, homophobia and sexism are totally valid because i went to school with white people

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 07:43 AM

hahahahaha

please explain to the class how you know what degrees i have and what degrees i do not have tia

also please explain why having a degree in sociology leaves you free from criticism when you post such "theories" as "poor AA mothers have more babies because they're hoping to win the genetic athlete lottery" or whatever the fug you were trying to say when, in actuality, fertility rates and poverty have a significant relationship across cultures and throughout centuries



but can't you see? you're the racist! don't ask me to explain why; you'll have to talk to madhatter about that



the majority of rap consumers are white. rap music is marketed to white people.

see: escapism
stop: trying to talk about black culture



this is incredibly obvious but remember who you're talking to here

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We should just all conform to your logic.

It is ALL society's fault....there is no personal accoutnability.

Drop out of school...don't worry that is not your fault.

Don't want to do homework and get an education...don't worry that is not your fault.

Don't want to get out of bed and go to work...don't worry that is not your fault.

Commit a crime and go to jail...don't worry that is not your fault.

The lack of ANY accountability by you and others sickens me.

I am not talking about race....I am talking about the lack of accountability of self respect across all races.

There are many people out there who are busting their ass every day to make ends meet and needs a helping hand....and that is what these programs should be for. Not the lazy people who are capable of working and spend their day sitting on their lazy asses.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 05:39 PM

GS you bring up some interesting points i hadn't thought of before, but your argument (regarding the effect of violent music/media not being a serious sociological influence on people) has a flaw IF it turns out that the white people who are at those concerts are more likely to commit crimes demographically (by way of socio-economic status or whatever.)

or are you simply saying that rap culture/violent media isn't a causal force but a by-product of something already existing?

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 10:31 PM

music should be treated as social commentary. it shouldn't be used to suggest that black people are just more susceptible to being influenced by violent music and thus will never achieve social equality (as is the implication when disregarding relevant variables, such as socioeconomic status and pervasive discrimination)

there are literally millions of white people who listen to some violent poo. to suggest that inequality is borne out of music ignores the fact that white people live longer, make more money, don't serve the same sentences for the same crimes, and are incarcerated at much lower rates than black people.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 10:51 PM

at the end of the day, it's white peoples grasp of sarcasm that gives them the edge.