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Bill Polian on Who Has a High Ceiling. RG3 or Cam


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#61 Meangelo

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 08:52 AM

I'm so sick of people acting like they don't like Cam because he is "arrogant" or a "showboat". Just come out and say it. We all know why you are critical of the young man.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 10:56 AM

i'm watching griffin against the vikings right now and it's the same deal as the giants game. i've seen him pull out of a called deep pass and check it down once so far - 11:47 on the play clock in the second quarter when he dumped it off to brandon banks after initially looking deep. there's also the near pick he threw in the first quarter at 5:47-he had a back open in the flat but went deep into double coverage without looking his way. on the next play at 5:41 his one read was clearly josh morgan on a called bootleg and he threw an ill advised pick right into antoine winfield's mitts. this is in contrast to a second year guy in ponder who you can clearly see scanning the field as he drops back.

again, a lot of the passes are quick hitters off three step drops working the grass between the sticks. they seem to like to work some 15-20 yard in routes as a change up and on occasion attempt actual vertical pass plays.

you can bullshit all day about cam's "showboating" or whatever you want but from a purely Xs and Os standpoint it's hard to compare griffin and newton. newton is clearly running a different (and much shittier) offense than griffin. the redskins' playcalling is near-perfect right now and the actual execution is fantastic. washington is much more balanced and as such you don't really see the kind of feast or famine stuff that's plaguing our offense from them. play design is worlds better and they actually feed their backs the ball.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 11:44 AM

"RG3 by a pretty significant margin."



I just think it's funny how all of the sudden people in the media think Cam sucks. Obviously the don't watch what is going on in Carolina. The play calls are flat out stupid and and his receiver are playing like crap. Everyone was all over Cam's nuts last year and saying he is the greatest rookie ever and he broke all of the records and now all of the sudden he doesn't know how to be an NFL QB. His body is built to last in the NFL a lot longer than RG3. RG3 has already been banged up with injuries this year, and Cam hasn't suffered an injury yet. In my opinion Cam has an all around better skill set but nobody will notice until we start winning. I'm just so fuging tired of people bashing Cam. His season this year is not that far off from what he was doing last year. His coaches and players around him are sucking. Yes he has made some crucial mistakes but if it wasn't for him we'd be blown out by a lot every game. I'll give it 2-3 seasons before the media is back on his nuts calling him one of the best of all time. We'll see what RG3 is doing by then.


I think its sad, but hopefully Cam has the mental fortitude to keep moving forward. What is funny is how Andrew Luck has fell completely off the map in the conversation.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 12:06 PM

In a year or two, RGIII will be known as 'injury prone' and a bust, while Cammy Cam juice will be entering his prime