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#1 Sean Payton's Vicodin

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 03:33 PM

http://en.wikipedia....i/Redskins_Rule

lmao

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 03:38 PM

So we're playing for our country next week great

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 03:40 PM

Obama is about to get destroyed if following polling internals, particularly the Partisan trends in Gallup and Rasmussen's larger survey(historically dead on). Along with Independent vote going by 10+ point to Romney.

Long story short, Panthers win

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 03:44 PM

Who the hell cares, only idiots and morons think Romney is any different than Obama. Governor of MASSACHUSETS!

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 03:52 PM

Lets face it, Obama is going to win. National polls are a JOKE! We have what, nearly 100 million people voting amd im suppose to believe a national poll of 800 people that Romeny is up by 0.9? Lmao, that concept is more laughable than us choking.

Its all about the state polls, Obama is leading Ohio among other crucial staes.

Also, 7/11 has reported Obama coffee cups have outsold Romney cups by 20% and Obama masks for Halloween have also outsold Romney by 20%. Think thats a stupid concept? Halloween mask sales have been accurate of predicting the election 100% of the time dating back to Clinton in 1996.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 03:53 PM

Who the hell cares, only idiots and morons think Romney is any different than Obama. Governor of MASSACHUSETS!


Your right, Obama is awesome and Romney sucks.

#7 Pantherxtreme

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 03:58 PM

I'm laughing at the people who actually think we have real choice in this country. We only have what the elites who have co-opted this government wants us to have. Now they can give it to us hard and fast ie; republicans or they can give it to us subtle and slow ie; democrats, but we're going to get it either way!

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:02 PM

Obama is up 60-30 in OH in early voting, and tied for people that will vote on election day. He will win OH by 4,5 points, thanks to low unemployment, and the auto bailout. He will also win Iowa, thus winning the election. I think he wins NV, VA, WI and NH as well.

That being said, yes...I can see this team falling apart after this..

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:05 PM

Please the 'polls' are a joke, if you want to know a real poll watch the betting circles. People with their money on the line will make much more informed decisions than some random BS poll. The accuracy of betting on the winning candidate has been spot on for almost all presidents.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:11 PM

Both candidates suck hard but I'd rather have Obama than Romney any day of the week. Really fug Romney, coming from someone that views himself as Independent maybe leaning to the Liberal side

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:14 PM

You're all idiots. PantherTrain moreso than anyone else.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:18 PM

take it to the tinderbox, where is a mod when you need one

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:19 PM

Lets face it, Obama is going to win. National polls are a JOKE! We have what, nearly 100 million people voting amd im suppose to believe a national poll of 800 people that Romeny is up by 0.9? Lmao, that concept is more laughable than us choking.

Its all about the state polls, Obama is leading Ohio among other crucial staes.

Also, 7/11 has reported Obama coffee cups have outsold Romney cups by 20% and Obama masks for Halloween have also outsold Romney by 20%. Think thats a stupid concept? Halloween mask sales have been accurate of predicting the election 100% of the time dating back to Clinton in 1996.

Damn!...........all the way back to '96

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:23 PM

http://www.nationalr...ied-josh-jordan

For all of the polls that are flying out almost hourly now, there are two common trends emerging: Mitt Romney is leading independents by healthy margins, and who holds the overall lead is entirely dependent on the party split within the sample. As of last night, Romney has a razor thin lead of eight tenths of a point nationally against an average Democratic partisan advantage of 4.4 points. In 2008, Barack Obama won the election by 7.2 points (52.9–45.7) and Democrats outnumbered Republicans by eight points. Compared to the average today, Obama has dropped eight points while only losing 2.6 points of the turnout advantage. That is due entirely to Romney’s strength with independent voters, and reason enough to sound the alarm in Chicago.

But of all the polls that have been released, there are two polls that will have Team Obama waking up in a cold sweat knowing that if these polls are even somewhat accurate they might be on the other end of a dramatic victory on Election Day: The party-affiliation polls from Gallup and Rasmussen.

Gallup released a demographic poll of likely voters from October 1 through October 24. The poll is of 9,424 likely voters — a large enough sample that the maximum margin of error is one point. What that means is unlike smaller national polls, this is a very comprehensive poll of the electorate that has much more reliability, especially in the subgroups, than any current national poll. The headline of the poll, “2012 U.S. Electorate Looks Like 2008,” would make Team Obama want to pick up the phone and reserve Grant Park for election-night festivities, but looking at the data inside may have them preferring to rent out a Lou Malnati’s so they could drown their sorrows in a deep-dish pizza as the results pour in.

In 2008 Gallup found the party breakdown of the electorate to be 39 percent Democrats, 29 percent Republicans, and 31 percent independents. That ten-point advantage grew to twelve points when independents were asked which party they typically leaned to, with 54 percent identifying as Democrats and 42 percent Republicans.

From that sample, Gallup has predicted Democratic turnout to be ten points higher than Republicans, and that independents would break to Obama. In 2008 Democrats did outperform Republicans by a slightly smaller margin, seven points, and independents did break to Obama by eight points. So while they might have overstated Democratic support slightly, they were able to see the underlying trend which was a huge jump from 2004, an election that was just about even.

In the current tracking poll, Gallup finds the ten-point advantage for Democrats has now turned into a one-point Republican advantage. The current party breakdown is now 35 percent Democrats, 36 percent Republicans, and 29 percent independents. And just in like 2008, that one-point advantage increases when independents are asked which party they typically lean to, with 49 percent identifying as Republicans and 46 percent Democrats. That number backs up the trends in other polling showing Romney leading among independents by large margins.

To get an idea of what this shift means, I plugged the Gallup 2008 and 2012 partisan numbers into the actual results from the 2008 election. Under Gallup’s breakdown, Obama would have won in 2008 by 9.8 points (he actually won by 7.2), and would eke out a victory against Romney in 2012 by eight tenths of a point.

But here’s why you can feel the panic emanating from Chicago: Romney is currently doing better with independents than Obama did in 2008. Obama won independents by eight, in 2008 while Romney is currently leading by 10.6 points on average. If the independent numbers are entered in to the 2008 results, Romney would have a victory of over four points. Even if Romney does not take any more crossover votes (Democrats who vote Republican and vice versa) than McCain got in 2008, he would still win by over four points on Election Day.

While Team Obama loudly declares that Gallup has to be an outlier, there is one other poll that has been tracking party affiliation every day as well, Rasmussen. Just like Gallup, Rasmussen runs a daily tracking poll with about 1,500 respondents included in the partisan affiliation breakdown. In 2008 Rasmussen found Democrats with a 7.1 percentage point advantage in turnout, which was a perfect prediction of the Democratic turnout margin on Election Day. In September of 2012, Rasmussen has Republicans now edging Democrats by 2.6 percent, with a split of 34 percent Democrats, 37 percent Republicans, and 29 percent independents. Keep in mind that September was a brutal month for Romney between enduring Obama’s post-DNC bounce, the 47 percent video, and the media reaction to his Egypt embassy statement, meaning October, given the debates, could be even stronger than September was for the GOP.

Regardless, taking the Rasmussen partisan breakdown of 2008 and 2012 numbers and plugging them into the actual results gives Obama a seven-point win in 2008 and Romney a half-point victory in 2012. Taking the same scenario as Gallup and moving the independent results to match the current polling average changes Romney’s half-point victory into a 5.7-point victory. (As with Gallup, I’m assuming the Republican and Democrat voting margins stay the same as 2008.)

If these polls are accurate and Romney captures a popular-vote win of four to six points, there is no chance he could lose the Electoral College. In fact, that type of victory would likely yield Ohio, Virginia, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Iowa, Nevada, Colorado, and possibly even some blue states such as Michigan or Minnesota. Overall it would be almost like 2008 in reverse, with Romney taking states many thought would be impossible a month ago.

We will find out in just over a week which pollsters end up right, but anytime you have two surveys with such comprehensive data showing the same trend it is impossible to ignore. And if you had any question as to whether or not Team Obama sees that writing on the wall, you can just watch their recent campaign activity for confirmation. A campaign with a robust, revved-up base does not sharpen attacks on core base issues like abortion, focus interviews on the Daily Show and MTV, and hold rallies almost exclusively on college campuses. There’s just over a week to go and the real battle should be for the middle. Every minute that the Obama campaign can’t make a compelling argument to the middle is a minute lost to Romney and they know it, and it has them terrified.



Panthers win big

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:26 PM

dude we're fuged if romney wins he's the worst candidate i've ever seen. i'd rather have george bush back


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