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#25 MHS831

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 03:12 PM

Multiple league sources tell Profootballtalk.com there's a "viable chance" DeAngelo Williams is traded ahead of Thursday's 4ET deadline.

According to reporter Darin Gantt, "several" teams have reached out to Carolina, and the "interest is serious." The sizable cap hit the move would entail has led many to believe Williams is untradeable, but according to Gantt, the Panthers are "absolutely" prepared to take the hit if a desirable deal presents itself. Gantt believes it "seems apparent" Williams won't be back with the Panthers in 2013 even if he stays put Thursday. As if it wasn't already clear, Jonathan Stewart no longer has competition for lead-back duties in Carolina.

October 31, 3:30 pm

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 03:15 PM

Multiple league sources tell Profootballtalk.com there's a "viable chance" DeAngelo Williams is traded ahead of Thursday's 4ET deadline.

According to reporter Darin Gantt, "several" teams have reached out to Carolina, and the "interest is serious." The sizable cap hit the move would entail has led many to believe Williams is untradeable, but according to Gantt, the Panthers are "absolutely" prepared to take the hit if a desirable deal presents itself. Gantt believes it "seems apparent" Williams won't be back with the Panthers in 2013 even if he stays put Thursday. As if it wasn't already clear, Jonathan Stewart no longer has competition for lead-back duties in Carolina.

October 31, 3:30 pm


Hopefully we at least get our 3rd round pick back for him...

#27 MHS831

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 03:17 PM

Hopefully we at least get our 3rd round pick back for him...


I would LOVE that. I am thinking a 4th-5th.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 03:19 PM

I'd be sick if we took anything less than 2nd for him. How can Gantt or anyone else speak in absolutes about the future of Williams, when we will have a new gm and more than likely a whole new coaching staff heading into 2013?

Hell the article even states that the 9.6 million dollar cap hit would take its effect against the 13 cap. His scheduled cap hit for 13 is 8.2 million.

I personally just can't get behind the idea of trading him. I would understand it more if we planned on keeping this current coaching regime but I just don't see that happening nor do I endorse it.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 03:23 PM

It will take some restructuring of other deals to accommodate the 9.6 million hit.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 04:25 PM

I'd be sick if we took anything less than 2nd for him. How can Gantt or anyone else speak in absolutes about the future of Williams, when we will have a new gm and more than likely a whole new coaching staff heading into 2013?

Hell the article even states that the 9.6 million dollar cap hit would take its effect against the 13 cap. His scheduled cap hit for 13 is 8.2 million.

I personally just can't get behind the idea of trading him. I would understand it more if we planned on keeping this current coaching regime but I just don't see that happening nor do I endorse it.


I don't think there is any way we are getting a 2nd rounder for DWill.

Here are his last 3 seasons:
http://www.nfl.com/player/deangelowilliams/2495979/profile
A 2nd rounder is not justifiable.

A 29 year old RB that is past his prime with 1400 rushing yards over the last 3 seasons doesn't equate to 2nd round pick.

I think MHS is more on target with 4th-5th rounder.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 04:30 PM

I don't think there is any way we are getting a 2nd rounder for DWill.

Here are his last 3 seasons:
http://www.nfl.com/player/deangelowilliams/2495979/profile
A 2nd rounder is not justifiable.

1400 rushing yards over the last 3 seasons doesn't equate to 2nd round pick.


I know his stats and I even posted them with proper context in this thread. Look at his yards per carry and TD to fumble ratio. The dude is still a damn good home run threat for us and people are overlooking how easy it would be for us to restrucure his contract and by doing so we would save more money than we do just by trading him

btw, 1400 yards over the last 3 years is not anywhere close to correct..

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 04:38 PM

I know his stats and I even posted them with proper context in this thread. Look at his yards per carry and TD to fumble ratio. The dude is still a damn good home run threat for us and people are overlooking how easy it would be for us to restrucure his contract and by doing so we would save more money than we do just by trading him.


Still, he's 29 years old, and next year will be 30. RBs typically fall off a cliff after 30. TD to fumble ratio doesn't mean much.. Ben Jarvis Green Ellis' ratio is probably higher than DWills. Restructuring would only benefit us if we wanted to keep DWill, which I think, clearly we do not.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 04:39 PM

I know his stats and I even posted them with proper context in this thread. Look at his yards per carry and TD to fumble ratio. The dude is still a damn good home run threat for us and people are overlooking how easy it would be for us to restrucure his contract and by doing so we would save more money than we do just by trading him

btw, 1400 yards over the last 3 years is not anywhere close to correct..


Add it again, 1407 rushing yards to be exact.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 04:48 PM

Add it again, 1407 rushing yards to be exact.

your counting 7 games as a full year and 2010 where he only had 87 carries. That math is flawed. I only see that kind of math used in politics not sports.

Thats still 4.7 ypc and if you use the same time frame then Stewart is still getting less yards per carry at 4.6.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 08:30 AM

the only real difference between deangelo williams and jonathan stewart's career stats is williams's monster 2008 season.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 09:56 AM

Steve Reed@SteveReedAP
For those curious, there's nothing shaking on the DeAngelo Williams trade front and, as of right now, no deal is expected.before deadline.