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King Taharqa

So no posts about leadership?

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Some of you are hypocrites. When we lost and Cam had great stats all I heard was "wins over stats". Well we won and you can't have it both ways.

As far as demeanor he hasn't been consistent, but he was just fine last week (and he played good last week on defeat as well)

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KT,

Go watch the video that James Anderson did last week.

I asked Byron Bell specifically who the leaders were on the offense. His answer? Gross and Smith.

I am the one that had to bring up Cam when leadership was the question.

I think Cam does have the tools needed to be a great leader, but pretending like he is one now isn't doing him any favors.

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I disagree.

When things are not going well, Cam shuts down. I watch it from the sidelines week after week. I see it with my own eyes.

True leadership is shown in your actions when things are tough, not when things are going great.

I disagree, I think Cam's "leadership" is a convenient scapegoat for fans of a bad franchise.

I think people overanalyze Cam's "etiquette" because he's a hard worker and has to perform well for us to win. He is not Jake Delhomme, stop expecting him to be. He leads by his play and by example and always takes the fall for "unheralded" guys that so many on this board wanna prop up when things go good, but wont mention when we lose.

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I disagree, I think Cam's "leadership" is a convenient scapegoat for fans of a bad franchise.

I think people overanalyze Cam's "etiquette" because he's a hard worker and has to perform well for

Oh, I am not saying it is the reason why we lose at all. There are many reasons why we lose. Cam's leadership is pretty far down the list.

I am just saying there is a great deal of room for growth in Cam.

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Some of you are hypocrites. When we lost and Cam had great stats all I heard was "wins over stats". Well we won and you can't have it both ways.

They want "professional losers", not "leaders".

When I ask who our leaders are and who is gonna carry us next week, I cant get an answer. We want to prop up our unheralded guys when we win, but aint asking them to carry the load, only to show up. That isnt leadership at all. Thats likeability. And I promise you, if Foxy & Peyton mash us, Cam will be the first target, not our "championship" defense.

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I am just saying there is a great deal of room for growth in Cam.

As is any 2nd year QB. But the overanalyzing of it, is over the top. Cam is never gonna be Jake Delhomme guys. He's not gonna be this rah rah rainbows up your ass on the sidelines, slobberknocker getting pissed off after he throws another INT, "aww shucks I cant believe I messed up" in the postgame presser guy.

He leads in his own way, and by his play. I think we do him and our franchise a disservice when we DONT acknowledge it. Other teams with young QBs go out of their way to make it about "rallying behind your QB" and praising any sign of leadership they display. You cant have it both ways.

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But the overanalyzing of it, is over the top.

I am pretty sure we have torn apart and analyzed every QB the Panthers have ever had. I don't think Cam is any different in that regard.

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I am pretty sure we have torn apart and analyzed every QB the Panthers have ever had. I don't think Cam is any different in that regard.

I dont recall us overanalyzing Moore's "leadership". It seems if you arent very gifted physically or not overly talented, its assumed you have intangibles. And if you are a physical specimen, then nobody can see intangibles in you. I never seen Panther fans make such a big deal about sideline demeanor, post game press conferences, and etiquette until Cameron became our QB. And Im pretty sure if Moore or Jake put up 2 TDs, posted a 100.1 QB rating and got us our first road win IN Washington their supporters would've mentioned the "intangible qualities" they displayed in the win.

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LOL...it's clear that a "leader" has less to do with how Cam behaves and more to do with how the media paints him in with some. Notice how they ignore the immaturity of the grown men on this team and their lack of leadership skills but expect a 23 years old to carry this team by himself simply because the talking heads in the media said so.

You can't take some of the folks on here too seriously.

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King T-- Ironically, your post mocking those who have questioned Cam's leadership, and now have failed to mention his leadership as a factor in this win, has created another thread where folks are questioning Cam's leadership. Great job! Perhaps without posts about Cam's leadership for you to defend you were left with nothing to say.

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