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[Frash Brastard]

op owns

[ggivensii]

So basically when we lose, we need to talk about intangibles, but when we win, no need to mention that with a QB like Cam. Gotcha.

You guys want it both ways.

I understand what you are trying say but it's oh so true..

[Jackofalltrades]

It comes down to this is KT's eyes: We lose and there are 52 players and a host of coaches, staff, etc to blame. However, if we win it's nothing short of Cam putting the franchise on his back and carrying those same 52 losers and others to the promise land.

Bow down bitches, it's that fuging simple.

[Lumps]

So Cam only shows leadership when we are winning? That is the point I got from this thread.

[mcdougal]

Would you just cut it out dude? When Cam plays like poo we hate him and when he plays well we love him. It's been the same thing with every star athlete since time immemorial.

Don't give us that crap. When cam plays well...IE Atlanta...he gets hated on...just stop with the rewriting of history...

[carolina-chuck]

Can has been pretty good for 2-3 weeks now with his attitude. Either that it he just got used to the feeling of losing every Sunday

[Gin and Juice]

Cam did not display the leadership today that we all want him to grow into over night! He did, however, lead by example! He made plays and put his mistakes behind him well. He played a solid game and will continue to grow and hopefully into the "leader" we feel he should be!

I do believe he is at his wits end with Chud's play calling because you can see his body language change in certain aspects of the game, mostly after failed runs. He carries an almost "why the fug did we just run that play!" demeanor! I was waiting for us to give it away with certain play calls, quite frankly, the pass down the field to Edwards was a shocker! We were up so I was expecting a cute run play when that was dialed up! Thank god the defense sealed the deal for us!

[Avacashay]

LOL Some of you are making KT's exact point for him and don't even know it.

[Gin and Juice]

LOL Some of you are making KT's exact point for him and don't even know it.

Not sure about the others, but I was trying to! I got his point and to some degree, he is right! The attacks on his leadership is a little unfair being he is in his second year, but i understand why the attacks are there. You can tell he has never dealt with much team adversity so it's going to be awhile before he can appropriately "put the team on his back." But I will also say that it would probably take a talented white QB less time to be a team player instead of wanting to be an "entertainer and icon"! Cam should get it, but it's gonna take him awhile

[Jackofalltrades]

My point is that Cam gets too much credit when we win and too much blame when we lose. Like it or not football is the ultimate team game.

Cam has some growing up to do as a person, QB and as a leader but a mountain has been made of a molehill by people who expect perfection from a kid facing the biggest challenges of his life.

[antame]

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Don't give us that crap. When cam plays well...IE Atlanta...he gets hated on...just stop with the rewriting of history...

Oy. Do you want a successful Panthers team or do you just want to rally behind a black QB simply because he's a black QB?

Look, I fully believe Cam's our guy and he's going to be fine - and we're turning the corner.

But please stop it with the racial crap.

[Avacashay]

Not sure about the others, but I was trying to! I got his point and to some degree, he is right! The attacks on his leadership is a little unfair being he is in his second year, but i understand why the attacks are there. You can tell he has never dealt with much team adversity so it's going to be awhile before he can appropriately "put the team on his back." But I will also say that it would probably take a talented white QB less time to be a team player instead of wanting to be an "entertainer and icon"! Cam should get it, but it's gonna take him awhile

[Zod]

We are all racist bro...we are white. Where the fug have you been almighty race god KT?

No race was mentioned in this thread until you posted this gem.

3 days vacation. Deletion next time.

[Zod]

OP is a dumbass.

48 hour ban

[albiechaser]

Sheeeeeeeet pickles could have beat the Skins today, lol take a look at some of the teams that put points up on that D this year,

lets talk after the Broncos game,
BUT GOD it sure felt good winning today, I want MORE