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#37 CPcavedweller

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 05:33 PM

Kuechly audibles and is allowed to change slides and coverages yet Cam cannot? Fire chud and Rivera and the rest of the offensive coaches including Shula . The reason for Shula shows in cams footwork. We're going to see Cam injured without the oline knowing what's going to happen because cam isn't allowed to make changes.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 05:33 PM

Anyone else notice how much better the offense functions during 2 minute drills? That's when Cam is free to run the plays. Fire Chud. Fire Rivera for letting Chud run this stupid offense.


I made a thread about that whole subject but it got ignored lol but that's so god damn true, look how effective he is when he audibles compared to when dud calls the plays.. Ridiculous..

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 05:36 PM

Found it pretty unbelievable when I heard Rivera say that.

When did he say that?

If true, that is full retard coaching. 2nd year QB in same offense should have some audible ability.....

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 05:37 PM

Fact: cam newton calls the wrong play in the huddle at least 10 times a game (courtesy of a starting olineman)

The coaching staff doesn't trust him to make reads and call the plays

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 05:46 PM

Fact: cam newton calls the wrong play in the huddle at least 10 times a game (courtesy of a starting olineman)

The coaching staff doesn't trust him to make reads and call the plays


What player said that? Uhh..doesn't he make reads in the READ option? If he was stupid, as implied...wouldn't he have a wristband and wouldn't we run a more basic offense?

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 05:51 PM

Wait wait wait, is this for real? Can someone tell me why these people still have a job?

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 05:52 PM

What player said that? Uhh..doesn't he make reads in the READ option? If he was stupid, as implied...wouldn't he have a wristband and wouldn't we run a more basic offense?


in the read option, the qb looks at one defensive player after the ball is snapped.

it's absolutely NOTHING like calling an audible at the line of scrimmage pre-snap.

if the qb can't read a defense pre-snap, it doesn't matter what kind of offense you run. the best thing to do is take the responsibility from him.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 06:10 PM

in the read option, the qb looks at one defensive player after the ball is snapped.

it's absolutely NOTHING like calling an audible at the line of scrimmage pre-snap.

if the qb can't read a defense pre-snap, it doesn't matter what kind of offense you run. the best thing to do is take the responsibility from him.

I know they aren't exactly the same. Point being,
reading is reading. The difference between driving a prius and driving a big rig, is training and experience. The coaching isn't there... and who says he can't read a defense pre snap? He doesn't have to read like A Manning in year 2. Cut his responsibility down some.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 06:11 PM

Wow, this definitely raises eyebrows to the sheer ineptitude of this staff.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 06:14 PM

In the clip...

Rivera said Cam does have audibles.....he can kill plays and go to another and there are built in audibles to plays based on coverage.

He just said doesn't audible like a Manning where he will call his own play and rearrange a formation to his own liking.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 06:16 PM

In the clip...

Rivera said Cam does have audibles.....he can kill plays and go to another and there are built in audibles to plays based on coverage.

He just said doesn't audible like a Manning where he will call his own play and rearrange a formation to his own liking.



aaaand reality.

there's literally no way any coordinator in the league would actually institutionally demand that the quarterback not be allowed to audible.

there are plenty of things to criticize chudzinski for without making new stuff up.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 06:19 PM

If you want any indication of the fact that the team is holding cam back from calling at the line, watch how late the offense gets to the line of scrimmage. Usually around 10 seconds on the play clock, hardly enough time to make a pre snap adjustment