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#1 ladypanther

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 06:44 PM

I was an early and sometime unpopular unfan of Foxy. By the way, I think his recent success is by the calls of Elway. Likely Peyton has more say than he does.

On to this team.

I again think this team is undercoached. There is a lot of talent on this team. Come on, DWill, JStew, and add Tolbert....we should be the bad ass running team of the NFL. Add Cam and Smitty to the mix....we should be The offense.

Just take the most recent game....we had success with the screen and going to the TE. So what did the offense do after that? Not what had worked. A good HC would have directed Chud to better plays. Sadly, Chud is not a good OC. And sadly, he did not have the right direction from his HC.

I very much need my job....so it is not a frivolous thing that I think someone deserves to lose a job.

A lot of money by fans...not to mention, a lot of heart has gone in to this team. We deserve better. So do some of our awesome players.

JR has already fired his friend Hurney. Given the results so far...seems like it will be a coaching clean house.

Wish this group had worked. I am sure JR did.
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Posted 11 November 2012 - 06:47 PM

I've never seen so many 12 men on the field calls in my life. That really says something about the coaching.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 06:48 PM

It's inevitable.

RR is in over his head. Chud is incompetent. They have to go.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 06:50 PM

Add a new quarterback to the mix

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 06:54 PM

While I'll agree there's talent on the roster, it's in a surplus at positions that aren't as important in todays NFL. We have some huge holes on our team. LT, WR2, CB, RG, FS, SS all are significant holes. LT, WR2, CB, and FS are positions that a premium is placed on in todays league. That's a huge problem. But I agree, coaching is horrendous.....

#6 nosuchthingasapanther

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 06:55 PM

you know the poo has hit the fan when ladypanther is cussing.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 06:55 PM

1. Every team has talent. The Panthers are not more talented than any team. The problem is that all the talent is at one position, which cannot be effective at the same time. 3 runningbacks? That doesn't help Cam. One stud runningback is enough. Three stud receivers helps Cam far more. Or maybe real pass protection.



2. Screen plays rely on catching the defense in a blitz. You can't call them every damn play. Throwing to Olsen is also a bit difficult when the QB is being raped and you need to keep him in to block.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 06:59 PM

you know the poo has hit the fan when ladypanther is cussing.


Not accurate.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 06:59 PM

What was his offense like in Cleveland the year after they made the playoffs? I know Anderson dropped off but I'm not sure of how the offense performed as a whole.

If it is how I think it seems underperforming has become a trend.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:00 PM

The GM and head coach seriously over looked the O-line.

Say what anyone wants about Newton or any other QB, the Oline makes the offense.

The Panthers don't have one and they didn't have one before they lost Kalil either.

Gross has been in decline for a couple of years now.

They seriously under estimated the steadiness of Travelle Wharton and what he brought to this team...didn't like his contract, renegiotiate, he was a quiet leader, he would have stayed.

What did they do instead, they drafted a big dumb ass LG who never played big time sports before...worked so well he got benched today.

The right side of the line, the RT and the RG would be lucky to be 3rd string on playoff teams.

Yes the WRs don't get separation. Yes the RBs aren't getting yards. Yes, Newton has regressed.

Fix that Oline and every single one of those problems get exponentially better.

Football is a simple game really. It's won and lost in the trenches.

No matter how many Supermans Newton does or dancing by the RBs end the end zone, or Steve Sith's great catches.

They had every opportunity to bring in better free agents. They didn't.

That's the story.

As far as Chudzinksi, why waste time on someone who is gone in 7 weeks.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:03 PM

While I'll agree there's talent on the roster, it's in a surplus at positions that aren't as important in todays NFL. We have some huge holes on our team. LT, WR2, CB, RG, FS, SS all are significant holes. LT, WR2, CB, and FS are positions that a premium is placed on in todays league. That's a huge problem. But I agree, coaching is horrendous.....


The problem is, it's difficult to even evaluate the talent level on the offense because the coaching is so bad. Not one player on O is performing above and beyond expectations. Not one.

That is coaching.

Get a good staff in here, and we'll have a lot better idea where the deficiencies are.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:09 PM

I don't really think you need a new coaching staff in here to understand why it was a bad idea to invest 89 million dollars in the RB position. That's what I'm talking about when I say we have a surplus at individual positions. Who on this roster is a #2 WR, or for that matter, a #1 when Smitty is gone? Who on this roster is a franchise LT to protect Cam's blindside? A ball hawking FS to patrol center field and make the QB pay for missed throws. A DT to affect the LOS on every down? We don't have any of those....

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:23 PM

All I know if JR had best make one helluva an impression with his next head coach selection.

It better be a star and it better be someone with credibility.

As a PSL holder, I've had enough, so have many others, and in these economic times coughing up $4200 a year for this well, it is not happening.

When I was at the Cowboys game, my row and the one in front and back of me was missing very long time PSL holders, ones that never missed a game, ones that never sold their tickets...that's gone now.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:25 PM

All I know if JR had best make one helluva an impression with his next head coach selection.

It better be a star and it better be someone with credibility.

As a PSL holder, I've had enough, so have many others, and in these economic times coughing up $4200 a year for this well, it is not happening.

When I was at the Cowboys game, my row and the one in front and back of me was missing very long time PSL holders, ones that never missed a game, ones that never sold their tickets...that's gone now.


So basically you're saying you want Cowher then? Sorry I just don't see a retread as being the right move....

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:29 PM

I don't really think you need a new coaching staff in here to understand why it was a bad idea to invest 89 million dollars in the RB position. That's what I'm talking about when I say we have a surplus at individual positions. Who on this roster is a #2 WR, or for that matter, a #1 when Smitty is gone? Who on this roster is a franchise LT to protect Cam's blindside? A ball hawking FS to patrol center field and make the QB pay for missed throws. A DT to affect the LOS on every down? We don't have any of those....


Regarding the RB's, yeah, that's obviously an area of concern. And I've not been comfortable with our WR corps since the 2011 camp.

My point is, every team has holes. Good coaching goes a long way to minimizing the impact of the deficiencies. No one on O is playing very well. That's not just from a lack of talent.


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