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[King Taharqa]

The fanbase isnt ready to see Cam cussing out teammates on the sidelines Zod. It wont be portrayed as leadership. Unless he marries our owners daughter or something.

[Zod]

The fanbase isnt ready to see Cam cussing out teammates on the sidelines Zod. It wont be portrayed as leadership. Unless he marries our owners daughter or something.

I dont necessarily think cussing out team mates is leadership either.

Did you watch the Manning video? Was he cussing out players or getting with players to fix mistakes, motivate, and encourage?

[ncmonzta]

KT does have a point. They way people act on here, Cam just needs to be quiet, look at clipboards, and be happy no matter what. Cam will need to win multiple rings and win most games himself for it to be OK. FWIW Peyton doesn't show much inspiration when losing either.

[Marguide]

Leadership starts at the top. That's where we're coming up short.

Look at it this way. Most people in leadership roles learn by watching their leaders or mentors and how they conduct themselves. I don't have a doubt in my mind that if Chud or Rivera or even Shula were coaching up Cam on how to talk to his line, or how to pull his receivers together for an impromptu session on the sidelines, he would do it. He's not doing it now because no one is showing him the way. He has to be coached up on these parts of the game just as much as on how to throw the ball.

Get this kid some good coaching and I think we'll all be surprised at his development.

[King Taharqa]

Peyton cussing out his lineman has been on Sound FX numerous times. This is when he was with the Colts. Peyton calling out teammates (Vanderjagt, his line) is not a new thing. Cameron is not privileged like a "good old boy" Peyton to have his flaws minimized. If he calls out a teammate, specifically guys like Olsen or his linemen, they will be the victim.

[ncmonzta]

Peyton cussing out his lineman has been on Sound FX numerous times. This is when he was with the Colts. Peyton calling out teammates (Vanderjagt, his line) is not a new thing. Cameron is not privileged like a "good old boy" Peyton to have his flaws minimized. If he calls out a teammate, specifically guys like Olsen or his linemen, they will be the victim.

Cam was trying to show leadership and instill a winning only mentallity, but I guess that was a bad thing. After the outlash he kind of fell back on that.

[g5jamz]

What's Peyton's regular season/playoff record again?

[CRA]

Damn it Cam!! Why can't you act like a 14 yr old HOF vet QB immediately following your rookie season!!!

Yeah, Peyton would throw his OL under the bus and stuff early in his career unlike Cam but how Peyton was early on is completely irrelevant. And yeah, Peyton had also been caught flat out cussin his teammates out and acting like a little brat as well in the past but that again is irrelevant. No excuse for Cam not being able to act like Peyton is today.....he doesn't need the years and years it took Peyton to get there. He is freaking Superman.

[I Registered To Post This]

What's Peyton's regular season/playoff record again?

"look at what a great leader peyton is! cam should act just like him!"

"actually, here are videos of him behaving in a way that would get our quarterback crucified by fans and the media"

"oh yeah well peyton has won a bunch of games so he's allowed to!"

also manning has a losing record as a starter in the playoffs

[Zod]

KT do you think Cam hanging his head by himself on the bench is an effective way to improve?

[I Registered To Post This]

there are not really many strong leaders in this organization top to bottom. steve smith is about the only one you can point to but he leads more by example as a "one man army" type of thing.

hopefully the new GM seeks to rectify this problem, starting with a coaching staff that is in cam's ear from the word go.

[TheRed]

I'm so tired of this knee jerk Cam sulks defense mode people go into. It's as if Cam is out there screaming and beating small children. He hates to lose. If that's a flaw then I wish this these coaches had the same problem.

[beastson]

I'm saying though how is inspiration going to fix the read option?

[CRA]

KT do you think Cam hanging his head by himself on the bench is an effective way to improve?

Cam puts a towel on his head and sits after a great drive to take the lead.

Part of it is resting....mentally and physically. Lets not forget he has been our best rusher since he arrived. Taking hits and being the offense takes recovery time after his unit is off the field

[I Registered To Post This]

peyton actually had to take a lot of the same poo that cam is taking now early and even into the middle portion of his career.

he started out 0-3 in the playoffs and has 7 one-and-dones up to this point. he infamously threw his offensive line under the bus after the colts' 2005 divisional playoff game against pittsburgh (it was the game where jerome bettis fumbled at the goal line and roethlisberger made that touchdown saving shoelace tackle for reference). he was notorious for slouching and sulking when he was getting beat up.

at this point in his career, cam has more in common with peyton than just the rookie passing yardage record.