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NH House votes down gay marriage bill because of religious liberty protection clause

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not the point. The point is they have to obey the law, not obey the law with a smile and a fruit basket.

Is that some kind of gay joke? You homophobic......homo.

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i came into the thread not having a problem with it because yes, churches should be allowed to discriminate all they want. but zod raised a good point with taxes. an organization should not be allowed to be tax exempt and discriminate at the same time. that is in essence government sponsored discrimination.

ditto

can't have cake+eat it

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Requiring that a group hold certain beliefs in order to be recognized as a valid religion is equal to government infringement on freedom of religion.

It works both ways.

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Just to clarify, you are ok with churches not marrying interracial couples?

Doesn't matter if he is ok with it. If you force them to do it, then the first amendment is being violated. And fwiw, the tax issue is irrelevant. Should a religion lose its tax exempt status just because it does something that society disagrees with? Mr. Scott is correct.

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tax exemption for religion is not in the constitution. that is a special privilege. it's not infringing on freedom of religion in the least. it is giving them all the freedom in the world to do what they want, and to pick between keeping discrimination or their special privileges. they're still 100% free to practice their religion as they see fit.

to answer your question, DDII, yes, they should lose it. why shouldn't they?

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do you guys like the idea of your tax money subsidizing the westborro baptist church's military funeral protests? because by not paying taxes, that's exactly what's happening. you're pulling their weight.

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tax exemption for religion is not in the constitution. that is a special privilege. it's not infringing on freedom of religion in the least. it is giving them all the freedom in the world to do what they want, and to pick between keeping discrimination or their special privileges. they're still 100% free to practice their religion as they see fit.

to answer your question, DDII, yes, they should lose it. why shouldn't they?

This is a question rodeo... I don't know the answer, which is why I'm asking... obviously it is not in the constitution that churches are tax exempt... why are they, when did that happen?

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i don't know either. i know it's 501c3. i can't find any info about its origins though.

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tax exemption for religion is not in the constitution. that is a special privilege. it's not infringing on freedom of religion in the least. it is giving them all the freedom in the world to do what they want, and to pick between keeping discrimination or their special privileges. they're still 100% free to practice their religion as they see fit.

to answer your question, DDII, yes, they should lose it. why shouldn't they?

No its not in the constitution. You are correct there. If they take tax exemption away for all religious groups, then I would be ok with it. But if they single out any specific religion because they will not do something that their religous beliefs forbid, then that is imo a violation of the first amendment. I can't imagine a more extreme example of a violation of the first amendment than to say that if you don't practice your religion the way we want you to, then its going to cost you a lot of money.

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do you guys like the idea of your tax money subsidizing the westborro baptist church's military funeral protests? because by not paying taxes, that's exactly what's happening. you're pulling their weight.

Do I like it? No I certainly don't. But I would be against removing that tax exemption merely because I find them disgusting.

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