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What Happens if DeAngelo Williams is Cut or Traded?


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#49 DaCityKats

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 09:07 AM

nothing, you still a guy that impressed on the ps, and ir.and Tolbert and Stew.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 09:08 AM

cutting him in the offseason won't make the team better and it will leave the team with less money to work with for the next year and less talent to work with.

not sure how that's being improved in the short term. long term i can see it, but short term...nah. he's still good. not worth the money, by any means but unless the new gm can work something out where it won't hurt the cap more to let him go than to keep him next year the team won't be better with him gone.


With the issues thus team has....likely new HC....new GM....I think you are going to see moves that are for the Ming term and n

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 09:09 AM

cutting him in the offseason won't make the team better and it will leave the team with less money to work with for the next year and less talent to work with.

not sure how that's being improved in the short term. long term i can see it, but short term...nah. he's still good. not worth the money, by any means but unless the new gm can work something out where it won't hurt the cap more to let him go than to keep him next year the team won't be better with him gone.


With the issues thus team has....likely new HC....new GM....I think you are going to see moves that are for the long term and not the short term. Thus, I think it us probably a foregone conclusion that this is DLo's last season as a Panther.

They likely will take the short term lumps to make the right long term move.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 09:25 AM

With the issues thus team has....likely new HC....new GM....I think you are going to see moves that are for the Ming term and not the short term. Thus, I think it us probably a foregone conclusion that this is DLo's last season as a Panther.

They likely will take the short term lumps to make the right long term move.

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i'm cool either way. we need to be more merciless towards opponents.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 09:26 AM

the ming dynasty is only a draft away.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 10:13 AM

Carolina will make moves will being good in 2014 in mind. Doesn't mean they will try to suck in 2013 but they are gonna take some stuff on the chin in 13.

Only way to get out of the Hurney mess is to look at 2014. Sitting on these guys is something we simply can't do...

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 10:15 AM

Posted Imageour new GM or HC?
i'm cool either way. we need to be more merciless towards opponents.

Damn I hate the iPhone keyboard (too damn small) and this damn auto spelling. Screws me every time.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 10:16 AM

Carolina will make moves will being good in 2014 in mind. Doesn't mean they will try to suck in 2013 but they are gonna take some stuff on the chin in 13.

Only way to get out of the Hurney mess is to look at 2014. Sitting on these guys is something we simply can't do...


Agree. We have some tough and ST cap unfriendly decisions that must be made for the long term success of this team.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 10:26 AM

Would hate to see us cut/trade DeAngelo and then start running an offense that actually compliments his skills (see Greg Olsen)

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 10:26 AM

Carolina will make moves will being good in 2014 in mind. Doesn't mean they will try to suck in 2013 but they are gonna take some stuff on the chin in 13.

Only way to get out of the Hurney mess is to look at 2014. Sitting on these guys is something we simply can't do...

they can't afford to be less than 8-8 in any year after this one. they don't have to be playoff bound next year, but they have to get up to .500 or fans are just going to quit bothering in even bigger numbers than they have been.

plus, 2013 is the year that they can start working out a new contract with cam. if we can't manage a winning season in his third year here i doubt that there is going to be much incentive for him to stay.

after this season is over, the panthers are in "win now" mode. they can't afford to take another year on the chin. that's all they've managed to do since we got embarrassed in the playoffs last time. they no longer have the luxury of trying to take time to rebuild.

more than likely, at least in my opinion, unless there is a clear benefit to the cap by letting a vet player go or an obvious upgrade available, they won't be moving on from them. they have enough holes to fill as it is without adding more.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 11:01 AM

they can't afford to be less than 8-8 in any year after this one. they don't have to be playoff bound next year, but they have to get up to .500 or fans are just going to quit bothering in even bigger numbers than they have been.

plus, 2013 is the year that they can start working out a new contract with cam. if we can't manage a winning season in his third year here i doubt that there is going to be much incentive for him to stay.

after this season is over, the panthers are in "win now" mode. they can't afford to take another year on the chin. that's all they've managed to do since we got embarrassed in the playoffs last time. they no longer have the luxury of trying to take time to rebuild.

more than likely, at least in my opinion, unless there is a clear benefit to the cap by letting a vet player go or an obvious upgrade available, they won't be moving on from them. they have enough holes to fill as it is without adding more.


I think you are giving fans' opinions too much credit. They are smart enough to know that they need to make decisions, no matter how unpopular to fans, fir the betterment of the team.

I will guarantee you that the question of "what will fans think if this" won't even be a factor.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 11:18 AM

I think you are giving fans' opinions too much credit. They are smart enough to know that they need to make decisions, no matter how unpopular to fans, fir the betterment of the team.

I will guarantee you that the question of "what will fans think if this" won't even be a factor.

well, it's not even the fans. it's JR. contrary to what others believe, i think he does have a soul. and i think he's got pride that's been hurt by providing the fans and esp. his PSL owners a crappy product for several years. i think he also knows he's living on borrowed time and probably would like to make it up to everyone for what he's ultimately responsible for.

and no, i'm not kin to him. i'm not his employee. i've never even seen his jock strap. no, i have no desire to.