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#25 Kuech the Sneak

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:49 PM

Ya, putting down the homer goggles he's really been getting constantly burned and only has 1 pick to show for it.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:57 PM

The problem with Norman is that he either isn't being taught properly, or he's not absorbing the information. Here is one example of what I mean:

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Ok Norman is at the top of the screen. He needs to make a decision, is he going to defend the slant or the fade? Any other route is less of a problem. Look at where the WR is lined up, and look at what hash mark the ball is on. The WR is split way outside the numbers, creating more room for a slant, and not much for a fade. I'm thinking slant. 2nd and goal situation against their #1. Slant route coming. Take away the slant, and if he runs something else you can try to recover. Take an inside shade, and mug the hell out of him, fight him. Or he can do some BS and we can lose to KC.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:58 PM

LOL @ all the Norman haters coming out of the woodwork now that Rivera put him on the bench for no good reason other than Rivera being Rivera (See David Gettis). Anyone remember the article earlier in the year showing how he was ranking with or above first round corners in tackles and passes defensed? Now all of a sudden he sucks? LOL.

I seriously question some people's ability to evaluate talent or understand the game of football. He's giving too much cushion? Then coach him up and watch him take to it. If he refuses, bench him. But to bench him for that reason alone, that's doing nothing but destroying his confidence. Rivera is an idiot. Look at Armanti being active every week over Gettis and tell me Rivera has a reason for what he is doing. Look at what he did to Dangelo and how he treated him in the process and tell me he is a legitimate head coach in the NFL.

Norman should've been coached up and still starting. Rivera is an idiot.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:08 PM

Rivera continues benching players who don't deserve to be benched.

asinine comment, Rivera is not going to bench someone because he just feels like it, that only happens in angry fanboy dreams. Rivera is coaching for his Job this season, next and any possible future HC Jobs if he thinks he's the best man for the Job he would be out there, since he's not IMO he must not be.

and Considering IMO there isn't a single NFL starter Quality CB on the team not named Gamble, what do I care that he's benching a player that would be a Nickel back best case on any other team?

It's like the idiots that were saying the Joe Adams benching was killing us, really? the Guy has 1 primary responsibility out there and that is protect the ball and he fumbles twice in a single game? I don't care if he ever sees the field again you can't do that in the NFL and expect to start especially when you are a unproven rookie.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:13 PM

I was happy whem we drafted the kid. With that said i havent been hapot since, what do u guys see in this kid? He rarely makes plays on the ball. Hes slow and seems to always give up first downs in press situations. Im not sure if you guys have on homer goggles or what. If a guy has it you see glimpses of it like cam,luke, and frank alxander to some degree. This guy reminds me of fua. The future doesnt loom bright.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:15 PM

Lol at Norman in the doghouse .

You guys are rich

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:16 PM

asinine comment, Rivera is not going to bench someone because he just feels like it, that only happens in angry fanboy dreams. Rivera is coaching for his Job this season, next and any possible future HC Jobs if he thinks he's the best man for the Job he would be out there, since he's not IMO he must not be.

and Considering IMO there isn't a single NFL starter Quality CB on the team not named Gamble, what do I care that he's benching a player that would be a Nickel back best case on any other team?

It's like the idiots that were saying the Joe Adams benching was killing us, really? the Guy has 1 primary responsibility out there and that is protect the ball and he fumbles twice in a single game? I don't care if he ever sees the field again you can't do that in the NFL and expect to start especially when you are a unproven rookie.

Your opinion, you're entitled to it.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:19 PM

LOL @ all the Norman haters coming out of the woodwork now that Rivera put him on the bench for no good reason other than Rivera being Rivera (See David Gettis). Anyone remember the article earlier in the year showing how he was ranking with or above first round corners in tackles and passes defensed? Now all of a sudden he sucks? LOL.

I seriously question some people's ability to evaluate talent or understand the game of football. He's giving too much cushion? Then coach him up and watch him take to it. If he refuses, bench him. But to bench him for that reason alone, that's doing nothing but destroying his confidence. Rivera is an idiot. Look at Armanti being active every week over Gettis and tell me Rivera has a reason for what he is doing. Look at what he did to Dangelo and how he treated him in the process and tell me he is a legitimate head coach in the NFL.

Norman should've been coached up and still starting. Rivera is an idiot.


Tackles don't tell you how good a CB is and the article said he had 6 passes defended which tied him for 6th. While that can be good, without knowing targets and completion percentage that stat really doesn't tell you anything.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:21 PM

LOL @ all the Norman haters coming out of the woodwork now that Rivera put him on the bench for no good reason other than Rivera being Rivera (See David Gettis). Anyone remember the article earlier in the year showing how he was ranking with or above first round corners in tackles and passes defensed? Now all of a sudden he sucks? LOL.

I seriously question some people's ability to evaluate talent or understand the game of football. He's giving too much cushion? Then coach him up and watch him take to it. If he refuses, bench him. But to bench him for that reason alone, that's doing nothing but destroying his confidence. Rivera is an idiot. Look at Armanti being active every week over Gettis and tell me Rivera has a reason for what he is doing. Look at what he did to Dangelo and how he treated him in the process and tell me he is a legitimate head coach in the NFL.

Norman should've been coached up and still starting. Rivera is an idiot.

LOL tackles and passes defensed. No poo, they throw at him all day.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:21 PM

He was getting abused lately.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:31 PM

Tackles don't tell you how good a CB is and the article said he had 6 passes defended which tied him for 6th. While that can be good, without knowing targets and completion percentage that stat really doesn't tell you anything.

LOL tackles and passes defensed. No poo, they throw at him all day.

I'm no saying he was a hall of famer, all I'm saying is he was performing on par with peers drafted higher.

@Chef, true, those stats are of much more importance, but as I said, he should've been coached up and only benched if he didn't take to it.

My problem is, Rivera has shown a tendency to bench players he doesn't have an affinity for and keep them on the bench for no rhyme or reason other than that, while he plays others who have no business being out there because he likes them.... All to the detriment of our team. If he didn't have the history he does with this, I would have no problem with it. But, he has shown a lack of skills in player and personality management and doesn't seem to do very much in terms of actual coaching either, so we should just take him at his word as to why Norman is being benched?

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:32 PM

At what point did Norman's play become a problem? Kids been playing virtually the same all season. NOW RR demotes him? If he was going to do it, should have been weeks ago. Clueless.