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According to the Stats, Our Offensive Line Sucks


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[quote name='Swaggasaurus' timestamp='1355797318' post='2051798']
Good to see our observations that Gross is straight garbage is not an overreaction or witch hunt of the highest paid OL. We need to upgrade LT and RG bad.
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I'm going back and rewatching several games. I just got done with Chicago where Gross was pretty solid. Watching Dallas now.

I think Gross is overpaid, but not a liability.

RG has been an issue all year long.
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While you are watching those games check out how the opposing teams line is holding up as well.

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I don't know what's wrong with Gross. There was one play yesterday when the Chargers sent extra men on our left side. In spite of the extra targets, Gross ended up blocking no one. Debate all you want about his abilities, but I've never seen that kind of total and complete whiff from him.

Could he really be aging that quickly or is something else going on? It's very puzzling to me.

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[quote name='ThunderKatt' timestamp='1355799067' post='2051853']
While you are watching those games check out how the opposing teams line is holding up as well.
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I'm watching Norman and DT's on D.

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All of this and Cam is still playing like the best QB in the league

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Thanks for the info, but I don't think anyone needed stats to tell us that we have an awful offensive line.
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While Gross isn't what he used to be and LT is and will be a need. JOAT is right. RG is the weakest spot on the line. And needs to be addressed ASAP.
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In the Tampa Bays 1st game he did the same thing where 2 defenders blew right by him. He even let a safety and corner disrupt plays while he was looking for someone to block.

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Ya don't say?

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I think a lot of our struggles came from Amini and Piggy IMO, mixed that with running the damn read option 79% of the time. I think if we ran out of the I formation more often we would have a better running game. As for the pass blocking, run Cam run.

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[quote name='Bullethead527' timestamp='1355802822' post='2052013']
I think a lot of our struggles came from Amini and Piggy IMO, mixed that with running the damn read option 79% of the time. I think if we ran out of the I formation more often we would have a better running game. As for the pass blocking, run Cam run.
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Biggest killer was moving to the zone read/option style. You're asking 3 established vets to change what they're doing. It would be similar if we went to a zone blocking scheme. It's not going to happen overnight AND not everyone can change.

Amini was awful early and that directly effects both sides of him, Gross and Ryan paid for that. Take Hangartner who should be a back up and make him a starter next to a C that already has yo babysit the LG he's not going to be as effective either.

However, Bell isn't getting his due. He's been very good. Good to the point that if we were to acquire a LT I'd rather dump Gross that do anything with Bell.
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A lot of this can be attributed to the overall ineptitude of our scheme for the first half of the year. Not only was the scheme not working, but our Oline was struggling to block for it properly, which made it even worse.

As we've changed the way that we've tried to run the ball to a more successful style our run blocking has improved as well. Crazy how that works.

The problem was two fold, IMO, bad scheme design and youthful/sucky linemen. They aren't as bad as the numbers suggest, but they aren't great either. I would say that had we run the run blocking scheme, that we are now, from the beginning of the year, we would be somewhere in the middle of the pack.
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