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Rivera has brainwashed you guys.

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I want him fired even if he wins out. He has displayed a defeatist loser brand of football one too many times. GTFO riviera

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Why can't some of you guys realize that the fire was lit because "JOBS" are on the line. Rivera hasn't shown any type of improvement from last year to this year. The only improvement I have seen is the improvement on the defensive side of the ball. Why can't you guys realize what happen to get us to this point? First we start off out the gate slow, we come out unmotivated and undisciplined. On top of all that we changed our whole entire offense. I wonder who let Chud do that?

Rivera is not the right guy to lead this team to success. At best, I believe we will be mediocre year in and year out with this guy running the team. The funny part about this when things got really intense during the season he didn't even stand up in front of the media and take the shots that Cam got. That's not a leader. The only time this guy can win is at the end of the season when we're not even in playoff contention anymore.

I done seen more then enough to know that what we been getting is all we are going to get with this guy. If Rivera remain as HC I will support him with no problem. I'm a Panthers fan. If he is retained lets hope his team doesn't wait into the end of the season and start to win.

Lets see how the rest of the season plays out.He has made some mistakes and he has made some improvements( defense).Jr has already laid it out to him...he wants the team to be trending up at the end of the season as a whole body of work.

Going through multiple coaches in a short amount of time has not proven to be a productive methodology if it can be avoided.

You say we have not improved and I disagree.During the Fox era I never remember seeing young late round talent improve as much as I have seen from some of these young defensive players ie Hardy,JThomas,BBell,DCampbell, JNorman.If these guys can fill roster spots then that allows us more opportunities to draft other play makers.

I think that watching Cam last year put unrealistic expectations in the minds of everyone.I can not explain why Rivera allowed Chud to coach the way he did this season but in short that can be corrected.Looking at the stable of coaches I see very few that would either want to come here or that I would want.The grass is not always greener on the other side.

Jobs are always on the line in the NFL.I am sure jobs were on the line in SD....did they play like it?

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What do I know? But, I agree with the fact that the team seems to be "getting it" and the Offense seems to be "moving". The Defense is on fire.

I dunno about anyone else, but something besides the players say'n "Screw this, let's just win!" has happened.

And that, to me, comes down to coaching. (late yes... but hear me out)

If it's because the players want to keep RR, or because they want to keep their Jobs, and in the process keep a consistency in the clubhouse. So be it.

If the the Panthers come out at the end of the season and Sweep the Saints, get swept by the new look Bucs, and Split with the league leading Falcons... Division wise, I'd say for a sad sack, sorry looking team. That's pretty dam good.

Now granted, the Saints aren't the Saints they were last season. And for good reason.

The Bucs are young and ready to rumble. And the Falcons, whether it's luck or pure talent, have done their whole "rise up" thing.

The Panthers have shown down the stretch, after all the "boo hoo'n" Cam was being blamed for in interviews... Coaching issues with not going for things when they should or playing scared (not to lose), but losing anyway... Or completely fuging up the offensive play calling... as a team they seem to have righted the ship. (The best they can, missing 14 players since 9/1/12 being put on IR. Not all starters but all contributors.)

It seems that they are doing this with YOUNG, UNPROVEN players that are playing well enough to make an impact. No name players... Named players getting a second chance(or 3rd). Hell, we have players that haven't even been given a dam shot yet, that we know can produce from past experience. (EX: Gettis)

I'm not advocating that RR is perfect. And you can't go off all the other coaches (listed above) and what they have done, because not all of them got their first head coaching job in a year when they almost didn't play. Had a whole new scheme to put in while playing the season. Having cap issues so you can't get top tier talent and then in the second season have hand the Offense to the OC to make sure the Defense (which was largely the reason for failure last season) step up... and having the OC fall up his own ass.

I'm not sure I want the team to "start over" again... but in the current outlook it seems that will be the case. And if not... will we have a GMless team for the next season? Or a yes man at GM?

I'm not sure Pat Y. was to far off if RR stays (about Beane). But if he doesn't... here's hope'n they pick up a couple magicians.

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As I've said many times it will come down to who else is realistically available. If we finish strong I'll take RR another year if we can't get a proven head coach. I am not wild about promoting another coordinator.

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As I've said many times it will come down to who else is realistically available. If we finish strong I'll take RR another year if we can't get a proven head coach. I am not wild about promoting another coordinator.

Good point! As I was looking through the candidates it wasn't like someone really grabbed my attention that would want the job here.

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For those citing his late surge, you do remember we did the same thing last year, only to start this year 1-7 right?

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Putting the example on a more basic level, you probably don't know anything about carpentry, but I'll bet you could still recognize a poorly made cabinet or piece of furniture.

...you're right i could recognize a poorly made cabinet but a decent made piece of furniture is made by a carpenter that gets to select the finest wood, hardware and other materials, not partical board and nails... all im saying is Riv has a good football mind and knows the game better than most and should be given a chance to get some talent in here that he selects....

...following your thought process, i bet you think Fox is a great coach because Denver is 11-3...

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If Rivera is still head coach, Gettis will not see the field. Lets face it he hates him.

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Only time I have wavered in keeping Rivera was after the KC game. If a performance like that or worse happens in the next two games then yes..the opinion on him will change due to performance.

Does Rivera hate Gettis or does Gettis's knee hate Gettis....it took him a long time to recover from a knee injury and quite possibly his practices are lackluster...of course no one outside of the team knows this.

Some guys just blow their knees out and they are done....used to be norm.

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How many times are people going to overlook that players cost us games this year just as much as coaching decisions? The team is playing inspired football and if I knew that I was being payed millions whether I won games or not I can assure you I wouldn't bother. Something about Rivera has lit a fire under these players with nothing to play for and i'm all for giving him another shot besides..top 10 defense with most of the starters missing...bitch please!

This is the most telling thing. Something changed and now players want to win and support Rivera.

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Does Rivera hate Gettis or does Gettis's knee hate Gettis....it took him a long time to recover from a knee injury and quite possibly his practices are lackluster...of course no one outside of the team knows this.

Some guys just blow their knees out and they are done....used to be norm.

Well, I don't know about all of this what you are saying but I do know that Rivera brought in Legs (legadu) last year saying that LaFell and Gettis were disappointments in so many words. How in the f could he come up with that when the year before those 2 had decent stats sheets. He over worked Gettis and now his knee needs rehab.

Then as the season goes on LaFell wins the starting job, then Rivera jumps all on his balls. With those decisions right there, my spidey senses should have been going crazy.smiley-confused013.gif

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A Thunder Kat with Spider Senses..

LaFell has his balls jumped on? Who overworked Gettis? Story confusing...me not understand.

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