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#76 BBQ&Beer

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 02:37 AM

It does if you can't grasp the playbook, and if you can't make the throw on top of it; you are disaster waiting to happen


It has nothing to do with how intelligent you are. I was replying to the "he's not very smart" thing.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 02:39 AM

I don't hate The Golden Calf of Bristol personally, it's his entire religious shtick that rubs me the wrong way. I just love to see people fail that think god is helping then succeed. But that's a conversation for the tinderbox...


I am a Christian so I will try to explain this, not sure if I will do it accurately lol.

I believe The Golden Calf of Bristol is trying to give thanks to God for blessing him with his talents rather than him giving thanks to God for helping him succeed I work for a Christian college football team, and one of the coaches there even said to the players "God doesn't give a piss about the outcome of this game, at the end of the day you have to make more plays than them".

I get it, a lot of people dislike Christians and in The Golden Calf of Bristol's case, it's because he where's his religion on his sleeve (which I am indifferent about because people will watch you closer than they did before); but at the end of the day I think The Golden Calf of Bristol is trying to honor God more so than thanking God for giving him some sort of "divine intervention" to win the game.

I hope helped a little.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 02:48 AM

I am a Christian so I will try to explain this, not sure if I will do it accurately lol.

I believe The Golden Calf of Bristol is trying to give thanks to God for blessing him with his talents rather than him giving thanks to God for helping him succeed I work for a Christian college football team, and one of the coaches there even said to the players "God doesn't give a piss about the outcome of this game, at the end of the day you have to make more plays than them".

I get it, a lot of people dislike Christians and in The Golden Calf of Bristol's case, it's because he where's his religion on his sleeve (which I am indifferent about because people will watch you closer than they did before); but at the end of the day I think The Golden Calf of Bristol is trying to honor God more so than thanking God for giving him some sort of "divine intervention" to win the game.

I hope helped a little.


I'll try and reword what I said.

I don't hate Christians. I couldn't really give two fugs what people believe. It's your prerogative. What I dislike about The Golden Calf of Bristol is the way his whole thing is so scripted. His The Golden Calf of Bristol kneel, his first and foremost I'd like to thank my lord and savior Jesus Christ thing. Like I said, I don't hate the guy, but his act is tired.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 02:50 AM

I'll try and reword what I said.

I don't hate Christians. I couldn't really give two fugs what people believe. It's your prerogative. What I dislike about The Golden Calf of Bristol is the way his whole thing is so scripted. His The Golden Calf of Bristol kneel, his first and foremost I'd like to thank my lord and savior Jesus Christ thing. Like I said, I don't hate the guy, but his act is tired.


I here you, even to me it gets old.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 03:10 AM

I don't know if you've ever read The Golden Calf of Bristol's book, but the man circumcised kids with his bare hands in the Philippines, as far as I can tell his character is A+. It's his standing as a quarterback that I'm worried about.


So does that mean I'm supposed to believe everything that was written in A Million Little Pieces as well? Just because it was written in a book doesn't make him an A+ character and, like I said, it wouldnt make cam or the president any more of a better person as well. Only way to know for sure is if you know the individual personally and not through a book or television. And no I'm not saying that what The Golden Calf of Bristol wrote was fabricated or whatever, it obviously wasn't, but until you know the person on a personal day to day level you'll never what kind of attitude the person really has.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 03:13 AM

The Golden Calf of Bristol has his haters...but I am non one of them...

Got no problem with his faith, or him expressing his faith in public doesn't bother me either. One of my favorite players kurt warner is the same way with his faith(not as out there as The Golden Calf of Bristol)y...only difference is warner is a great QB, but The Golden Calf of Bristol sucks **** as a QB

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 03:22 AM

It's as good as it get's to a forgone conclusion, just admit; The Golden Calf of Bristol won't be out of this league whether you like it or not.

You jumped to a hasty conclusion.

A team will gamble on The Golden Calf of Bristol because of the publicity he brings to their team and organization.


I clearly stayed it was my opinion... That's the difference, I know my speculation is not fact... But Mort wants you to believe him to jax is fact when it's not.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 03:25 AM

So does that mean I'm supposed to believe everything that was written in A Million Little Pieces as well? Just because it was written in a book doesn't make him an A+ character and, like I said, it wouldnt make cam or the president any more of a better person as well. Only way to know for sure is if you know the individual personally and not through a book or television. And no I'm not saying that what The Golden Calf of Bristol wrote was fabricated or whatever, it obviously wasn't, but until you know the person on a personal day to day level you'll never what kind of attitude the person really has.


Sheesh, someone has a personal vendetta.

I'll tell you what, he is coming to speak at the college I go to this next semester, you can come if you want or I will do a recap.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 03:26 AM

The Golden Calf of Bristol has his haters...but I am non one of them...

Got no problem with his faith, or him expressing his faith in public doesn't bother me either. One of my favorite players kurt warner is the same way with his faith(not as out there as The Golden Calf of Bristol)y...only difference is warner is a great QB, but The Golden Calf of Bristol sucks **** as a QB


Yeah, Kurt definitely doesn't where his religion on his sleeve like The Golden Calf of Bristol though. Kurt made it known that he was a Christian but didn't get carried away.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 03:27 AM

I clearly stayed it was my opinion... That's the difference, I know my speculation is not fact... But Mort wants you to believe him to jax is fact when it's not.


Well Mort is a douche any how lol

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 07:05 AM

Betcha he will for this.

And he should be. It's a stupid thing to do.


Absolutely. He may not like it, but he draws a paycheck to play what position and when he might be called on. Employees don't get to choose when and under what conditions they'll consent to earn their pay, not if they still want to be employed.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 07:37 AM

Well that's because he's obviously not, Cam comes across that way to people that aren't a fan of the Panthers because they don't realize that Cam all around plays a different style of football then anyone else in the NFL.

Cam knows football is a business but he also loves to have fun and I guess that just rubs people the wrong way for some reason.


You are right..

But I believe a lot of that has to do with their own egos. Some folks seriously hate to see someone they see in a certain light, succeed when they want him/her to fail. It seems a lot of folks, especially in the media dislike Cam because he seems to perfect in their eyes. He's a handsome young man. He's quite talented and when folks set out to create pitfalls for him, things just seem to work themselves out to his benefit. That burns some people to no ends.

Also, personal perception of others does beats reality any day and our media knows that. Which is why it's so easy to paint The Golden Calf of Bristol as some sort of Saint and Cam, into nothing more than another "thug" with "immaturity issues" who's just waiting to end up in "jail." Sadly, there are way too many folks who simply judge others based on nothing more than their image and what they see on tv.

How much you want to bet The Golden Calf of Bristol is way more self-centered than Cam is being perceived?

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 07:55 AM

The people who support The Golden Calf of Bristol as fans or see themselves in him dont engage in a lot of "self actualization". Short of cussing out reporters or doing something just incredibly stupid and indefensible I dont ever expect the media to attack a player like The Golden Calf of Bristol's character or imply some sort of innate flaw or tie him to other failed QBs like Todd Marinovich. Thats not how they make money, thats not how they feed century old stereotypes, thats not how they help people cope with a changing world. I do expect them to present him as privileged (saying he would decide where he would play last offseason, already reporting he will work for another team while he's still employed by another) and ENTITLED. They did the same thing with Andrew Luck, even though he's more of a traditional QB, but both players where big college stars with big followings and massive media hype.

Cam for the most part is marketed under the Jim Crow era stereotype of "brute". He's big, strong, and quick, and athletically gifted, but he's "immature", "not trust worthy (fake smile)", is a "showboater", and has had his intelligence questioned many of times. He is a "brute" all the way. So attacks on his character will be constant, implications of his mental flaws will be a staple in any piece on him. He's also gonna be expected to not show too much emotion or do anything that might be perceived as non-conformist. No one will question his athletic gifts, but intangibles and mentality are fair game for any "brute". Google the word.

The worst thing we can do as fans is ignore or try to shield the double standards. They need to be called out, because the truth is, moving forward those double standards and biases are seriously hurting the credibility of the QB position. Its hurting how people like at guys like Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, etc. Guys who can only play 1 position on the football field but are credited as great football players. If they'll do it for The Golden Calf of Bristol (who sucks as a QB) why wouldnt they do it for those guys?

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 07:58 AM

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 08:34 AM

The people who support The Golden Calf of Bristol as fans or see themselves in him dont engage in a lot of "self actualization". Short of cussing out reporters or doing something just incredibly stupid and indefensible I dont ever expect the media to attack a player like The Golden Calf of Bristol's character or imply some sort of innate flaw or tie him to other failed QBs like Todd Marinovich. Thats not how they make money, thats not how they feed century old stereotypes, thats not how they help people cope with a changing world. I do expect them to present him as privileged (saying he would decide where he would play last offseason, already reporting he will work for another team while he's still employed by another) and ENTITLED. They did the same thing with Andrew Luck, even though he's more of a traditional QB, but both players where big college stars with big followings and massive media hype.

Cam for the most part is marketed under the Jim Crow era stereotype of "brute". He's big, strong, and quick, and athletically gifted, but he's "immature", "not trust worthy (fake smile)", is a "showboater", and has had his intelligence questioned many of times. He is a "brute" all the way. So attacks on his character will be constant, implications of his mental flaws will be a staple in any piece on him. He's also gonna be expected to not show too much emotion or do anything that might be perceived as non-conformist. No one will question his athletic gifts, but intangibles and mentality are fair game for any "brute". Google the word.

The worst thing we can do as fans is ignore or try to shield the double standards. They need to be called out, because the truth is, moving forward those double standards and biases are seriously hurting the credibility of the QB position. Its hurting how people like at guys like Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, etc. Guys who can only play 1 position on the football field but are credited as great football players. If they'll do it for The Golden Calf of Bristol (who sucks as a QB) why wouldnt they do it for those guys?


The media plays to the underlining false perceptions that still are alive and well in this country. The only difference is, for every negative black stereotypical tag placed on Cam, can be quickly offset by painting RG III as the opposite.

When it's all said and done, The Golden Calf of Bristol, Cam and even RG III are all victims of a society who is still steep in racial stereotyping.

It's no wonder that a kid like Trayvon Martin became the size and height of someone like Cam in the minds of some simply to justify his senseless killing. When in reality, nothing was further from the truth. Perception vs. reality.


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