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Is Greg Hardy going to get Charles Johnson money?

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No way. One good year out of 3 or 4 does not get you CJ money. Frankly, paying CJ all that money was a mistake and one we shouldn't repeat with Hardy. Don't get me wrong, he is playing well and should get a good contract when its time, but he hasn't earned elite money yet (neither has CJ). Plus, he is a loose cannon and has a history of making poor decisions. Hopefully he has grown up and turned the corner--I am happy for him.

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If necessary, we could franchise tag him in 2014. This year's cost for DE's was $10.6 million. Who knows what it will be in 2014. Nonetheless, we probably have enough time to get our cap in order before we have to do something about Greg.

We also going to have to pay Cam in 2014 as well. I hope our next GM will take all of that into consideration this up coming off season.

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in order to keep him carolina, he should.

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in order to keep him carolina, he should.

This is why were in the mess we are in today. Its, like hurney trolled this board looking for our favorite players and decided to pay them ass loads of money! Next year if frank alexander steps up then krakken is expendable and you draft a new guy. YOU DONT WIN BY PAYING 6-8 GUYS A TON OF MONEY!!!!! Pay Cam and draft well and develop around the talent you have. That way when its time to re-up, the team has the leverage not them. Make a reasonable offer and give them the choice. If they bounce we already have someone younger and cheaper.

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Johnson's contract year was a statistically ridiculous year. Hardy hasn't touched that level quite yet. But it is enjoyable to think how even better Hardy will be with the extra motivation of a big contract at stake.

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should be paid even more

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if we bring in a GM from the giants, defensive line will be the biggest priority on the team. being able to come into a situation with two elite defensive ends will be a dream scenario. hardy stays.

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The 10 sack mark is no longer the elite player barrier. Not in today's league. He's still young, and I'll give him some benefit of the doubt because anytime Dwan Edwards goes down we lose any and all interior push, but he'll have neither of those excuses next year (assuming the new GM is an Accorsi hire, not a Richardson one) and it'll be up to him to take another step and make a push for a big contract.

You don't deserve this kind of big money talk after only 15 games. Needs to show he can do it consistently. If not, then you're just MadHatter and want to pay everybody huge dollars for past performance and being stand up young lads.

We pay you for what you're going to do, not what you've done. If Hardy doesn't give any inclination next year that this season was just the start of something awesome, then you don't throw oodles of cash at him for 2012.

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He won't get CJ money, but he deserves it... CJ's contract was the first of the statement contracts Richardson dealt out. Without Hardy then CJ would be another Julius Peppers 2.5 sack a year type player.

He is also the reason our secondary isn't torched every week. I like Josh Thomas and Dockery and all, but honestly how would these guys be doing if Hardy and CJ weren't wrecking sh1t?

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We don't have to pay Hardy for another year or two right? Can anyone break down what the status of his deal? Does he become a restricted free agent that we can put a first round tender on? With a guy like the Kraken you stall as long as you can to pay him because he's a volatile entity. He's the type of guy that could be suspended for substance abuse or breaking the law next week. Please don't take that as racism but he is a wild man. He was out buying shots 2 hours after the game posting on twitter for everyone to join him. He invites trouble. I love his attitude but it could be his downfall in a PC league.

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If we release older vets like Gamble and Williams then the team should have the cap space to make Hardy a well payed Panther.

Unlike CJ....for a big payday, you should have more than one year of top end production.

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We also going to have to pay Cam in 2014 as well. I hope our next GM will take all of that into consideration this up coming off season.

Of course he will. Every team has projections and plans regarding the management of their cap going out a number of years.

This is why were in the mess we are in today. Its, like hurney trolled this board looking for our favorite players and decided to pay them ass loads of money! Next year if frank alexander steps up then krakken is expendable and you draft a new guy. YOU DONT WIN BY PAYING 6-8 GUYS A TON OF MONEY!!!!! Pay Cam and draft well and develop around the talent you have. That way when its time to re-up, the team has the leverage not them. Make a reasonable offer and give them the choice. If they bounce we already have someone younger and cheaper.

Certain positions cost a lot of money if you have guys performing well. QB, LT, DE are consistently at the top. There is nothing wrong with paying guys at those positions market prices. The problem comes in when you are paying non-premium positions top dollar and you starve yourself for cap space elsewhere. The obvious examples in our case are the RB's and LB's, and yes, even our center.

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