how much stock should you put into the combine?
Posted 05 January 2013 - 02:05 PM
so how do you guage whether a player is just a combine allstar or is the real deal?
say hopkins or fisher has a average combine would you put that much stock into or just ignore it??
Posted 05 January 2013 - 02:47 PM
Cam had a bad Combine but a very good Pro Day. The combine didn't hurt his stock. The combine helped Kuechly's stock. If you need a certain position, you are not going to pass them up just bc of a poor or average combine showing.
Posted 05 January 2013 - 03:35 PM
For late round guys it could help a bit more if they have an all world combine but I really don't see it being all that important at the end of the day.
Posted 05 January 2013 - 04:14 PM
Other things like the bench, vertical, 40 yard dash, etc. are indicators of athleticism but should be given less weight as they don't translate to the field as markers of football skills really (40 can show break away speed for receivers, but even that doesn't matter if the film is lacking).
Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:11 PM
how about the Wonderlic test?
Oh lord. Worst test given out ever.
Who was it that made like a 4 on it? Was it Mo or PP7?
Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:21 PM
The combine should be used to validate the skills you see on the field, if you watched 10 games from a particular team and never really recognized a player, but then go to the combine and he blows you away with numbers is a common mistake for many people. If it doesn't translate to the field then it doesn't matter. Workout Warrior is the term for that and every year there are multiple of these. last year it was Dontari Poe from Memphis.
For instance last year I was high on Kuechly from watching his games and thought he was a solid player. Unfortunately for him i felt he would be too slow to be a star in the NFL. After seeing his combine numbers and agility drills, his 40 time of 4.5 It solidified my opinion and I really wanted him.
I would use the combine to verify the ability of what I see on film and if those numbers translate the skills I see on the field to what is the average skills required to play in the NFL for that respective position. My main goal at the combine would be to personally meet the player and see what kind of person he really is. That's something you cant always see on the field is a players personal and family life. I want a player that is going to take it has a job and work hard every day. Best example off top of my head in this case was Koren Robinson who got drafted by the seahawks a long while back, but he came in dressed unprofessional and wore thousands of dollars of jewelry in chains and rings.
Posted 05 January 2013 - 09:30 PM
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 10:12 PM
"ERMERGERHD DRAFT DONTARI POE!!!!11"
Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:01 AM
Ideally you want an athletic player that produced in college and has good film.